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No, Republicans are NOT okay with ripping human babies limb from limb!
National Right to Life ^ | Feb 14, 2003

Posted on 02/07/2007 1:18:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Key Facts on Partial-Birth Abortion

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In a partial-birth abortion, the abortionist pulls a living baby feet-first out of the womb and into the birth canal (vagina), except for the head, which the abortionist purposely keeps lodged just inside the cervix (the opening to the womb). The abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with a surgical instrument, such as a long surgical scissors or a pointed hollow metal tube called a trochar. He then inserts a catheter (tube) into the wound, and removes the baby's brain with a powerful suction machine. This causes the skull to collapse, after which the abortionist completes the delivery of the now-dead baby.

The January 2003 Gallup poll found that 70% favored and 25% opposed “a law that would make it illegal to perform a specific abortion procedure conducted in the last six months of pregnancy known as ‘partial birth abortion,’ except in cases necessary to save the life of the mother.” (margin of error +/- 3%)

The term “partial-birth” is perfectly accurate. Under both federal law and most state laws, a “live birth” occurs when a baby is entirely expelled from the mother and shows any signs of life, however briefly -- regardless of whether the baby is “viable,” i.e., developed enough to be sustained outside the womb with neo-natal medical assistance. Even at 4½ months (20 weeks), perinatologists say that if a baby is expelled or removed completely from the uterus, she will usually gasp for breath and sometimes survive for hours, even though lung development is usually insufficient to permit successful sustained respiration until 23 weeks.

Some prominent defenders of partial-birth abortions, such as NARAL's Kate Michelman and syndicated columnist Ellen Goodman, insisted that anesthesia kills the babies before they are removed from the womb. This myth has been refuted by professional societies of anesthesiologists. In reality, the babies are alive and experience great pain when subjected to a partial-birth abortion. [Documentation on request.]


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; partialbirth; prolife
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for that reminder! This is a bedrock principle for us as conservatives. If we will not stand for defenseless, babies, for whom will we stand?


21 posted on 02/07/2007 1:29:17 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Jim Robinson
I would like someone to explain to me how killing a child after it's already gone through the birth canal could possibly save the life of the mother. By then the delivery is done and if it were going to threaten the mother's life, it would have already done so.

I'm serious. I would like someone to address this.

22 posted on 02/07/2007 1:29:52 PM PST by alnick
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To: Jim Robinson

The PBA ban was the most significant progress made on the pro-life agenda in the past 30 years. Too bad the courts are still in need of a massive overhaul to let this will of the people be enacted.


23 posted on 02/07/2007 1:29:57 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: hosepipe
Except... Rudy Giuliani(R) seems to be not all that bothered about it..

Careful Hosepipe, you know you should never look as a candidates record.

"Read my lips, no new taxes."
24 posted on 02/07/2007 1:30:24 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You must be one of those "purist" noobie posters the rudybots warned us about.

/sarcasm


25 posted on 02/07/2007 1:30:49 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you very much Jim!


26 posted on 02/07/2007 1:31:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

It is a grotesque and inhumane procedure that shows the true barbarity that unfortunately some medical advances bring.
I make sure to explain the procedure to my BIG LIB friends and relatives during dinner so they can try to choke down their food after having the full knowledge of what their representatives believe in.
My grandmother, God Bless her, was under the belief that the 'Rats represented Catholic morals until I explained such things as this to her.


27 posted on 02/07/2007 1:31:11 PM PST by JerseyDvl (STOP - Hildabeast, Shrillary, Hitlery, Billary, Her Thighness, Sen. Cankles, Hillita Clintón.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

... the blue bussssss......


28 posted on 02/07/2007 1:32:08 PM PST by cgk (Republicanism didn't make Conservatives a majority. Conservatism made Republicans a majority. [NEWT])
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
[.. "Read my lips, no new taxes." ..]

-OR-
"I'm a Unite'er not a Divide'er".. (NO VETOS)

29 posted on 02/07/2007 1:33:09 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Jim Robinson
The bill would permit use of the procedure if “necessary to save the life of a mother whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself.”

Problem being, the ones who claim the "mental health" of the mother, which perverts into "I just don't think I can handle having a baby"

Which also raises the question....how can one be a "mother" to something they don't consider to be a life?

30 posted on 02/07/2007 1:33:20 PM PST by digger48
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To: hosepipe

Indeed.

Everyone knows a politician is as good as his word.


31 posted on 02/07/2007 1:34:07 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: alnick

It can't. As I've pointed out on other threads, the procedure actually increases the risk to the mother, because the baby has to be in the breach position.

The exceptions claimed by the pro-abortion spokespeople are out-and-out lies.


32 posted on 02/07/2007 1:34:29 PM PST by william clark (DH4WH)
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To: fishtank

Now...if the Doctor or the mother were to light up a cigarette after the procedure....well then they'd be in some SERIOUS trouble. /sarc


33 posted on 02/07/2007 1:34:35 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Jim Robinson

You betcha.


34 posted on 02/07/2007 1:35:26 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Oh, God... I couldn't get past the first paragraph.

Whatever possessed democrats that made them think this was okay? Oh... nevermind... I think I know.

35 posted on 02/07/2007 1:36:10 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: cgk

I love that photo. Thanks.


36 posted on 02/07/2007 1:36:26 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Americans kill more than one million American children every year.

The Democrat Party thinks that's a sacred right.

I think it's as great an evil as anything Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or Hitler ever committed. Worse; it's done voluntarily by private citizens, not on government orders.

We need to end it, not pander to it.

37 posted on 02/07/2007 1:37:06 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mmichaels1970

LoL....


38 posted on 02/07/2007 1:37:23 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Jim Robinson
Rudy Giuliani opposed the Partial Birth Abortion Ban legislation in Congress as well as a Partial Birth Abortion Ban in his own state of New York City.

The Republican Party has never nominated a pro-abortion candidate as their presidential nominee. We have to make sure that it doesn't start doing so now.

39 posted on 02/07/2007 1:39:08 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
his own state of New York City.

Hehee...

40 posted on 02/07/2007 1:41:05 PM PST by Enosh
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