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On the Issues: Duncan Hunter
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Posted on 02/07/2007 9:50:33 AM PST by pissant
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To: labette
I am an avid C-span watcher...and I jumped on Duncan Hunter's wagon early.
He is very good...not a mesmerizer like Bubba Clinton...but he is nice looking, earnest sounding, and knows his stuff.
To: Wombat101
What I am telling you, if you stop to think about it, is that a cultural conservative cannot win a general election for president in this country because government is NOT the proper tool for installing the cultural conservative agenda.
Huh? That is a non-sequitur. You're not giving a reason why they "can't" win, but a reason why you prefer that they "don't" win.
It must be made by human-to-human contact, and advanced by changing hearts and minds, not by passing legislation.
I disagree. I think the battle must be fought on BOTH levels with equal intensity.
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posted on
02/07/2007 10:50:48 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
To: Wombat101
What I am telling you, if you stop to think about it, is that a cultural conservative cannot win a general election for president in this country Either 8 years of Reagan prove you wrong, or you believe the country has changed too much to allow it to happen again. If the latter is the case, though I may fear you being correct, I'm not willing to wave the white flag this far ahead of the election. This country is worth fighting for at the ballot box as well as in foreign lands.
because government is NOT the proper tool for installing the cultural conservative agenda
A completely useless rationale in the face of the left's demonstrated eagerness to install a culturally liberal agenda; with signficant success to date. Now who's not dealing with reality?
To: madison10
Oh, small c coasties, like those of us who live on the coast, not capital C Coasties like those of us who are Coast Guard verterans.
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posted on
02/07/2007 10:53:02 AM PST
by
Fierce Allegiance
("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
To: pissant
We argue the issues from time to time. Most of the time its civil and in the end, we usually have some fun doing it. We aren't at polar opposites of the political extreme. We both have a great admiration for Reagan. I think folks like us who can remember how bad this country was from 1963 under LBJ, to Nixon, to Ford and onto Carter in 1980, have a real appreciation for what Reagan was faced with when he took office. We value his fine leadership and see a lot of Reagan in Duncan Hunter. Reagan had 45 years of name recognition with the public at large when he won the Presidency in 1980. That is not the case with Cong Hunter. Hunter is moving forward against impossible odds at this point. He needs a fortunate set of circumstances to play out. That could happen. We shall see.
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posted on
02/07/2007 10:55:15 AM PST
by
Reagan Man
(Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
To: pissant
Social Conservatives who have won as of late: GWB
Without social conservative votes, GWB would have been toast. Carl Rove said as much:
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...Rove said that one reason the 2000 election was so tight was that as many as 4 million Christian conservatives did not go to the polls, reported "The Chicago Tribune."
Although the Bush campaign had expected 19 million evangelical voters to vote for their man, election returns revealed only 15 million turned out to cast ballots.
Speaking yesterday at an American Enterprise Institute seminar, Rove said the Bush campaign "probably failed to marshal support of the base as well as we should have," said the "Tribune." Rove added: "But we may also be returning to the point in America where fundamentalists and evangelicals remain true to their beliefs and think politics is corrupt and, therefore, they shouldn't participate."
Rove said that if the "process of withdrawal" went on it would be bad for the country as well as conservatives and Republicans. "It's something we have to spend a lot of time and energy on."
Taken from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/589852/posts
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posted on
02/07/2007 10:55:50 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
To: pissant
"GWB
RWR
Jimmuh (at the time anyway)"
You mean the GWB who was once Pro-choice, but easily and shamelessly switched his position in order to become RR's VP? Really? I didn't know we wanted hypocrites.
You mean the divorced Gipper? I don't know how the family-values types missed that one. The way they jump of Gingrich and Guiliani, you would have thought the concept and stigma of divorce was brand-spaknin' new, and didn't exist in 1980.
You mean the Anti-Israel, Pro-Soviet, sit-on-his-hands-while-Islamofascists-took-Americans-Hostage-for-a-year, Southern Gentleman who couldn't find his own ass with both and and a roadmap.
The first two examples blow your own argument to smithereens (if you consider yourself to be a conservative,it's stange how you let them pass without raising an eyebrow), the last is just plain stupid.
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posted on
02/07/2007 10:55:56 AM PST
by
Wombat101
(Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
To: 70th Division
Someonw PLEASE tell me where delivering a dead baby will save the life of the mother. My son is a Dr. he can not think of one reason to do a PBA to save a woman. Hmmm
Exactly. See my post #44. I believe it is a red herring to bring that "...except to save the life of the mother" into the debate. That is not what happens in the real world.
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posted on
02/07/2007 10:57:01 AM PST
by
mc5cents
(Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
To: Wombat101
Behind every silver lining there's a dark cloud.
To: Antoninus; All
When Hunter breaks into the 10% range in the "all-important" MSM polls, a lot of the usual suspects on FR are going to have conniption fits. No danger of that just yet.
The latest poll from New Hampshire has Duncan Hunter at 0% per usual, but registering 1% on the least likely to vote for.
To: Antoninus
"Huh? That is a non-sequitur." No it isn't' read it and engage your brain. No Culturally conservative candidate will ever be elected until the social climate demands one. At present, that climate does not exist, and when it does, this is no longer a democratic republic.
As for preferring that they don't, then yes, you are correct. if I wanted to live in a theocracy, I'd move to Iran. My personal conservatism extends only to a few issues (only one which is a social one), after which, I am a Republlican, not a panty-bunched busybody and self-proclaimed arbiter of all that is right and good.
"I disagree. I think the battle must be fought on BOTH levels with equal intensity.'
Good luck trying.
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:00:46 AM PST
by
Wombat101
(Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
To: Wombat101
You mean the GWB who was once Pro-choice, but easily and shamelessly switched his position in order to become RR's VP? Learn your presidents. It'll help you make rational decisions regarding who to support.
To: Wombat101
Really? So the republican party doesn't like law and order, smaller government and lower taxes? I must have missed that memo.
So did Ed Rendell. I don't plan on voting for him any time soon, either.
And you don't really believe that Rudy is for smaller gov't, do you?
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:01:23 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
To: pissant
Thank you, pissant! I've been wanting to learn more about Duncan Hunter and this is a great place to start.
BTTT
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:02:31 AM PST
by
Chena
To: Txsleuth
Dh earned my respect after watching a cpan interview, and he was able to answer tough questions. The people answering the questions were obioulsy leftis. I think he took them by suprise. The first time I have seen a republican put these people in their place.
Have u been watching the iraq debates in the Senate this week?
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:03:30 AM PST
by
nepppen
(RESISTANCE IS FUTILE..............DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT..............)
To: trisham
Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005) Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003) Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999) Rated A+ by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record. (Dec 2003)BTTT
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:03:52 AM PST
by
Chena
To: Wombat101
Also, reading with comprehension is of value. The examples you were given were in reference to the manner in which the candidates portrayed themselves during their campaigns. So bringing up ancient personal history or what they did after they were elected is irrelevant to your argument. But hey, you work with what you've got, right?
To: william clark
"Either 8 years of Reagan prove you wrong, or you believe the country has changed too much to allow it to happen again."
Yep. The Gipper promised you school prayer and a constitutional amendment against abortion. I don't recall either happening, so why does RR still sit enshrined in the "Cultural Conservative Hall of Fame?" Perhaps because hypocrisy is a disease not solely limited to democrats?
As for "having gone too far", the non-cultural aspects of Reagan's reign are still being felt; lower taxes lead to a humming economy, strong defense deters enemies (unless tghey happen to e of the kamikaze bent, apparently).
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:04:05 AM PST
by
Wombat101
(Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
To: All
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mothers life. (Oct 2003)
This is a bit off topic but I always wondered how a partial birth abortion can save a mothers life.
From what I understand, the child is delivered to a point where the "doctor" can perform the procedure then finish extracting the baby.
How is that different then just delivering the baby alive?
I am serious, am I not informed about this or missing something?
BTW from what I am seeing of Duncan Hunter, He's looking pretty good. Still a long way to go though.
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:04:24 AM PST
by
Las Vegas Ron
("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 2001?)
To: Wombat101
So you say that his one divorce made Ronald Reagan something other than a social conservative??? Rubbish! He stood pro life in the debates driving Anderson to the invention of "the right to be wanted" which was an idiotic laughable position.
The fact remains, Reagan was very much a social conservative candidate who got elected and reelected by a LANDSLIDE.
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:04:48 AM PST
by
Monterrosa-24
( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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