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We couldn't get the numbers in '06 to hold on to the House and Senate. Isn't it better to take states like NY, NJ, PA and Florida and pull off a decisive win and at least hold on to the White House? The rats will do far more damage in 4 years than Giuliani ever will. I think he'll come around and work with us.

#1. Rudy is not a centrist. He's a liberal. He will split the GOP wide open as the nominee for president.

#2. Rudy will be a dead-duck as the Republican nominee if (God forbid!) he gets that far. Why? Because the MSM will "Foley" him to death--portray him as what he is: an out-and-out liberal whose words and antics are like poison to social conservatives. By the time they're done, Hillary will be able to run to his right--and the MSM won't have to lie that much to get him there.

As one New Jersean to another, tell me--how has it worked out for us nominating liberal after liberal to run against the Dem machine here? Answer: it hasn't. It worked only with Christie Whitmann and we're still paying for her disastrous tenure with all the liberals she advanced into leadership positions in the GOP state party. Do you really want the national GOP to look like that?

It's not like we have a whole to choose from. If there is such a strong Republican conservative movement (which we all wish was the case), why are we having such a hard time finding a dynamic conservative candidate? Why are we recycling Newt or looking to a relatively unknown from California, or a couple of so-called "rinos"? We need some new up and coming "personable" conservatives. Right now I don't see any. Had Santorum not crashed and burned he probably would have been good on a ticket.