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China blames the west for global warming
FT.com ^ | February 6 2007 | Mure Dickie

Posted on 02/06/2007 4:17:22 PM PST by COUNTrecount

Rich industrialised nations must take the lead in cutting greenhouse gases since they bear the “unshirkable responsibility” for causing global warming, a Chinese official said on Tuesday.

The comments by a foreign ministry spokeswoman underscore China’s determination not to allow international action on climate change to undermine its economic development.

Rapid economic growth, a huge population and inefficient industry have made China the world’s second largest carbon emitter after the US – new data show that power generating capacity in the country in 2006 expanded by an amount equal to the entire capacity of the UK and Thailand combined. But the country’s per capita emissions have remained far below the global average.

“It must be pointed out that climate change has been caused by the long-term historic emissions of developed countries and their high per-capita emissions,” Reuters news agency quoted Jiang Yu, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, at a briefing on Tuesday.

“Developed countries bear an unshirkable responsibility,” Ms Jiang said.

The United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said last week that human activity was likely to cause global temperatures to rise about 3 degrees celsius by 2100, causing water shortages, heatwaves, storms and floods.

Beijing’s top weather bureau official said on Tuesday China was serious about tackling climate change but needs time to introduce the advanced environmental technology available to developed countries.

Qin Dahe, head of the China Meteorological Administration, said Chinese per capita emissions in 2000 were just 0.65 tonnes per person - one fifth of levels in Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development countries.

There have been recent signs that Beijing is preparing to take a more activist approach on curbing emissions, following a official government enquiry that concluded warming could intensify China’s water shortages and undermine agriculture.

“The Chinese government takes the problem of climate change extremely seriously - President Hu Jintao has said that it is not just an environmental issue but a development issue,” Mr Qin said.

Wen Jiabao, the premier, was also “very seriously” pushing officials at all levels to achieve the government target of improving energy efficiency by 4 per cent a year, he said.

However, the comments by Ms Jiang and Mr Qin offer no encouragement for international critics who feel that China should impose limits on its greenhouse gas emissions.

Beijing has been reluctant to discuss what role it might play in carbon curbs after the present provisions of the Kyoto Protocol expire in 2012.

Along with India and other developing countries, China was exempted from emissions curbs under the protocol, which was anyway never ratified by the US.

Mr Qin made clear that other countries should not expect too much of China.

“As a developing country with a fast growing economy and large population, it will require a great deal of money to completely change the energy structure and adopt clean energy,” he said.

China would “need time” to catch up with the US, Europe and Japan in the use of clean energy technology, he said.

Chinese analysts have in the past expressed disappointment with the level of environmental technology transfer, a key goal of the Kyoto Protocol.

However, Beijing is benefiting from trading schemes set up under the protocol that are intended to find the most efficient ways to cut total emissions by allowing companies and countries to buy “carbon credits” that represent reductions achieved in China.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; communists; globalwarming; redgreens; stingy
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1 posted on 02/06/2007 4:17:24 PM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Just one more thing the Dems have in common with the Reds.


2 posted on 02/06/2007 4:19:13 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: COUNTrecount

Rule one. All communist lie.


Never forget rule one.


3 posted on 02/06/2007 4:20:25 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: COUNTrecount

Well I blame them for MSG.


4 posted on 02/06/2007 4:20:25 PM PST by GoDuke
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To: Ikemeister

If you ask me, a lot of people in China are breaking wind, and flatulence is NOT good for the ozone, global warning.


5 posted on 02/06/2007 4:20:34 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: COUNTrecount

Well don't choke on that brown cloud hovering over your country Yu.


6 posted on 02/06/2007 4:21:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Yet more proof that "climate change" is just a Red plot to destroy Western civilization.


7 posted on 02/06/2007 4:21:50 PM PST by Argus
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To: COUNTrecount
“As a developing country with a fast growing economy and large population, it will require a great deal of money to completely change the energy structure and adopt clean energy,” he said.

I would think as a "developing country" one would have an EASIER time adopting clean energy, given that they wouldn't have already invested in a fully developed conventional energy infrastructure.

But since when have the Chicoms made much sense?

8 posted on 02/06/2007 4:22:17 PM PST by wizecrakker (Trying to behave)
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To: COUNTrecount
Rich industrialised nations must take the lead in cutting greenhouse gases since they bear the “unshirkable responsibility” for causing global warming, a Chinese official said on Tuesday.

BS. We are told that China and India are the causing the increased consumption of oil. Let's keep China from using oil since Al Gore sez "it's wrong". Start China out "right" on some alternate fuel source.

Oh wait, the Communists just want to stifle the West. Same as always.

9 posted on 02/06/2007 4:22:22 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Pictures don't lie. The breath-takingly dishonest Chinese Communist vermin are the biggest polluters on earth. Oh, and they are EXEMPT from Kyoto!!!!!

The brown gunk is smoke from 300 million Chinese filthy dirty coal burning stoves, factories, and boilers:


10 posted on 02/06/2007 4:25:42 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: COUNTrecount

LOL, China is on pace to pass the US as the #1 producer of CO2 emmissions in the next few years.


11 posted on 02/06/2007 4:25:45 PM PST by Always Right
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If global warming is happening at a rapid pace, currently the West does bear most of the responsibility. Britain has been chugging out large amounts of soot from the use of coal since the early 1800's, much longer than the PRC. However, again if global warming is happening at a rapid pace, the PRC is at this moment supposed to be the second largest emitter of greenhouse gases (after the USA, which is supposed to be emitting a quarter of manmade greenhouse gases).
12 posted on 02/06/2007 4:29:13 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: COUNTrecount
9 responses, and not one addressing the problem of what sort of leverage the developed world might have in places like China and India to lower pollution. This isn't just about "Global Warming" - acid rain resulting from Chinese pollution coming across the Pacific is already a problem on the US West Coast, and the Chinese are just getting started on coal fired power generating.

We need to start thinking about this - it's very real and increasing problem.
13 posted on 02/06/2007 4:30:07 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: rovenstinez

Cattle is supposed to be a larger source--so Argentina should have a lot of greenhouse gases (along with the USA). And proposals to reduce overpopulation are generally bad (especially if they involve abortion as a means of stabilizing or reducing the population).


14 posted on 02/06/2007 4:31:30 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( There are too many liberal, anti-American Wikipedians--and people in general.)
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To: COUNTrecount
China blames the west for global warming

Bwaahaha.

That would be like Muslims blaming the US for sectarian violence in Iraq.

15 posted on 02/06/2007 4:53:19 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: COUNTrecount
The Red Chicoms sound like democrats!
16 posted on 02/06/2007 5:09:35 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: COUNTrecount

China...is the biggest polluter...EVER.


17 posted on 02/06/2007 5:22:51 PM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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To: COUNTrecount

Let's assmume the figures in this article is true (which I'm far from ready to concede). Everything is referenced as per capita. Last time I checked the west had a fraction of the population of China and India. If you have 10 times the population but your per capita ratio for anything is let's say half... you're still 5 times higher in total for that issue. They never come out and give raw numbers... only per capita. This is nothing but an attempt by the commies to gain a competive advantage in the world market, and the Al Gore's of the world are coconpirators. Hmmmm I wonder if this was discussed in the bhuddist temple a few years ago.

CT


18 posted on 02/06/2007 6:02:56 PM PST by Carolina_Thor (It's always better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: COUNTrecount
China blames the west for global warming

I like this way of thinking.

I blame Hillary(!) and Ted Kennedy for Global Warming. Their carbon footprints are WAY too large. Much hot air being emitted non-stop.

19 posted on 02/06/2007 6:17:27 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Anyone who has ever traveled in China knows that this is nonsense. The air there reeks of low grade coal fires and dozens of other chemicals. The rivers are so polluted that you'd really hate to fall out of a boat.

Clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.

20 posted on 02/07/2007 5:25:53 AM PST by GingisK
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