Pro-Life Leader Says Rudy Giuliani Too Pro-Abortion for GOP Nod

Life News ^ | 2/6/07 | Steven Ertelt

[wagglebee]

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-life advocate says he thinks Rudy Giuliani is too pro-abortion to deserve support form the overwhelming majority of Republican voters who are pro-life. Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, says he doesn't think the former New York mayor will be able to capture the party's nod.

Giuliani moved another step closer to a full-fledged candidacy on Monday by filing a statement of candidacy and removing the words "testing the waters" from his exploratory committee papers.

He has a high standing the polls both nationally and in early primary states such as Iowa and New Hampshire but Perkins says that's simply because of his high name identification.

"At this point most people have no idea where candidates stand on the issues, the polls simply reflect name ID," Perkins told CBN.

"Giuliani is known for his impressive leadership in the wake of 9/11, but most pro-family Americans do not yet realize how far outside of the mainstream of conservative thought that Mayor Giuliani social views really are," Perkins added. "Once people focus on this election and the candidates Giuliani's lead will diminish."

Should Giuliani get the party's nod for president, Perkins said it would likely hand the White House over to the Democratic candidate because pro-life voters would have no one to support.

The last several elections have been between pro-life Republican and pro-life Democratic candidates and a Giuliani nomination would change that dynamic.

"If by some chance Giuliani were to gain the Republican nomination it would set up a very similar scenario that we had last November," Perkins told CBN. "A unenthusiastic Republican base which will suppress turnout and set up a Democratic victory."

Republican voters have previously turned away pro-abortion candidates from capturing the primary nod, including former California Gov. Pete Wilson and Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter. Republicans haven't had a pro-abortion nominee since Gerald Ford in 1976.

When asked to respond to social issues on CNN's Inside Politics in a 1999 interview, Giuliani replied, "I'm pro-choice."

In the same CNN interview he also indicated he does not support even a modest ban on the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure saying, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Giuliani also indicated he would have upheld President Clinton's veto of the partial-birth abortion ban.

"Yes. I said I then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it," he told the New York Times in November 1999.

The former mayor also backs embryonic stem cell research, which pro-life groups oppose because it requires the destruction of human life to obtain the stem cells.

Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are the top two candidates in the polls apart from Giuliani.

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee are also running and drawing significant support from the pro-life community.

Other potential Republican candidates include pro-life former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, pro-life Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, pro-life Reps. Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, and former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Emotion so often trumps logic. Pro-life means all life; not just life in the womb.

Keeping in mind that the pro-life believer respects ALL life, a type of triage makes the most sense.

Thus, our first concern should be to keep the citizens of our nation alive. Only a country of survivors can hope to cause change in her future.

In a perfect world, Guliani would be far from my first choice. But he appears to be perhaps the best hope to shut down the Clinton machine. I'm sure Hillary is squealing with delight to see the Republican in-fighting.

I sure hope that people remember to look at the big picture and realize what threatens "life" right now more than anything else.

[garv]

Rudy is also an enthusiastic supporter of McCain-Feingold so we can cross the first amendment off the list as well.

[areafiftyone]

Ahhh! The "Rinse and Repeat" Crowd!

[jmc813]

I must be really showing my age because last I knew, conservatives and by extension, Republicans, did not want the federal goverment running our lives, especially our social lives. Back when I was first voting, Republicans WANTED states to handle social issues.

Do you oppose the Federal war on drugs and No Child Left Behind?

[narses]

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Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.
Rudy Giuliani

[narses]

While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment not one of them was a Republican.

All of his judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.


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“And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.”
Rudolph Giuliani

I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

[papertyger]

All over FR people are spamming all the reasons Rudy can't win. Why is everyone so worried about him, then?

Because the last thing we need is another Bob Dole candidacy.

[jmc813]

BTW, if Hunter or any of the other candidates win, I would be more than happy to support them in the general, unlike you spoilsports who wanna throw a snit because your candidate lost.

That is exactly why a candidate acceptable to conservatives would be a better nominee in the general. You guys are willing to compromise and vote for a conservative GOP candidate. Most anti-Rudy posters are not. Giuliani is not a pragmatic nominee.

[deport]

Hi Southie....... Hope all is well with you.

This 08 cycle may well turn out to be one that turns all conventional/historical context upside down. It's very early in the game and a lot can happen to change things in this compressed cycle. So who knows which candidates will be the representatives of each party.

However if Giuliani becomes the nominee of the Republican party then I think you can throw out the past regarding which are red/blue states, trends, voting patterns etc. He may well bring states into play that would never have been in play for a Republican nominee. It may come down to just your thinking about the WOT and keeping the Clintons out of the WH. I know I'll vote for whomever is the party nominee with the hopes of defeating Hillary.

[DTogo]

Ahhh! The "Rinse and Repeat" Crowd!

The "Repent, Rinse, and Repeat" crowd.

[nopardons]

bttt

[jwalsh07]

Is Rudy Electable? Not in New York says this poll.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Hey there. Good to see you.

I know I'll vote for whomever is the party nominee with the hopes of defeating Hillary.

Same here. My conscience would not allow me to help her by sitting it out. No matter who the GOP nominates, I'll opt to hold my nose and vote in hopes of not suffering another Clinton.

[Rodney King]

All over FR people are spamming all the reasons Rudy can't win. Why is everyone so worried about him, then?

Because for some unknown reason he is not just another GOP candidate, he is considered THE candidate that we need to rally around now. I don't think he is a total disaster, and would vote for him vs. Hillary, but I don't get why he should be our first choice.

[Reagan Man]

"In one-on-one matchups with Republicans, Ms. Clinton outpolled Mr. Giuliani 53% to 32% and Sen. John McCain of Arizona 55% to 26%."

Interesting. Thanks jwalsh07.

[Convert]

We are worried that he will lose to Hillary
Even if he were prolife, he has too much grist for the Hillary mill
Where has everyone been the last four years?
I talk to people from all over the nation (and the world for that matter) - regular people ordinary people - like me
You are critical readers and have time to look at the details
Flashbunny understands - the snapshot of the person will be what makes or breaks this race

[wouldntbprudent]

"Once people focus on this election and the candidates Giuliani's lead will diminish."

In favor of whom? "Undecided"?

Ah, you caught that, too.

Just a little prob with reality. Nothing to see here. Move along.

[wouldntbprudent]

Well, Peach, I keep running into you all over the place today and finding the need to give you high fives!

What you said, all the way.

[Convert]

Yeah, THAT'S it