Rudy’s a No-Go

National Review ^ | 2/6/2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[Trteamer]

Four years of Hillary will be very bad, but we WILL survive.

I'm trying to imagine that. Makes ones head spin. What a conundrum we have isn't it. I for one am sick and tired of holding my nose when I vote Republican. If a strong conservative candidate does not step up to the plate, I'll have a tough time with my vote, and I'm not holding my nose any more.

[firebrand]

There are lots of unprovable assertions in your reply.

[firebrand]

The Comstat system was initiated in Boston by Bratton, Maples--can't remember all the names. Bratton was made police commissioner and they brought the system here. Maples brought it to Florida, Bratton to California . . .

It tracks crimes by computer so that criminals can be caught more easily, among other things.

Giuliani's welfare policy wonk has been working for other cities as well, helping them do what Rudy did here.

[firebrand]

I thought you meant in 2000, when he was very ill. You don't know much about NY. Have to go now . . .

[Paulus Invictus]

He beats Hitlery and that's a great plus. Who else could beat her among the Pubbies? Or Obama? Answer: no one, hence we should vote for the guy in spite of his negs as a conservative. There can be nothing worse than another Clinton in the WH, nothing!

[upsdriver]

Wouldn't bother me in the least. If the Republicans are stupid enough to nominate Rudy, they're the ones who should have a bothersome conscience.

[Ciexyz]

I don't believe we can successfully legislate the morality issues of abortion, a marriage amendment, the definition of obscene art, etc., for various reasons, one being that there are more important battles to fight at this point in our nation's history and we have to win those battles first or we won't survive. For me, econonomic, security, and crime issues come first.

[Canadian Outrage]

Absolutely!! Your so right. I know that "any" nation that sheds "innocent blood" such as unborn babies is under a curse. There are NO exceptions. I struggle so much with people's understanding of these basics. It's true tho, God would NOT accept an imperfect sheep and he will not now accept imperfect people. By that, I mean a God fearing people. It always comes down to "the people". As probably you know and I know, " Under a Godly leader the people rejoice, and under an UNgodly leader, the people groan", however, people get "the Government they deserve". A lot of waking up needs to be done and soon. CO

[Howlin]

if the GOP refuses to kick those 2 losers out of the party, I hope Hillary wins in 2008, maybe then the GOP will learn another lesson, they obviously learned nothing in 2006 by Pelosi taking control of the House and Republicans getting beat all across the country

That's the exact stupid a$$ argument that GOT Nancy Pelosi the power.

[GSlob]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780421/posts:
As James Lilek wrote, "And none of the objections obscure the central appeal of the Rudy candidacy: He'll nuke 'em if he has to. That won't be the central theme of his campaign, of course, but it's the unstated strength of his candidacy. "

[arthurus]

Nixon would not have taken that check, either. It would not make political sense to someone who is not already Arabist.

[Saberwielder]

I'd rather vote for and see a good conservative Republican candidate lose in the general elections than vote for an "electable" candiate who is wrong on life, guns and marriage. Rudy will never get my vote. You pick sides in a battle based on values and beliefs, not winnability.

[richmwill]

BINGO! Exactly right, my friend.

[sine_nomine]

I am not blaming JulieAnnie for that. I like his attitude toward terrorism, but he doesn't get a big shiny medal for that. Every American should be against Islamofascism. He gets a good conduct medal, not a MOH.

[nutmeg]

Very interesting, thoughtful post in #389. Thanks for your insight. A President Giuliani (if that occurs) will be different, that's for sure. But there's no doubt he's a courageous and strong leader, which we need in a post 9/11 world. This is just anecdotal, but several non-FReeper friends of ours up here are very excited at the possibility of Rudy becoming President. These are non-affiliated voters who rarely get excited about any political candidate. The #1 reason they like Rudy? Strong leadership with the War on Terrorism.

I do like Duncan Hunter as well, from what I know of him... but will he able to overpower candidate Hillary Clinton? I guess we'll find out in the coming months.

Will be interesting to see how things shake out over this "eternity" until November 2008...

[nutmeg]

I will support Rudy in 2008, because the country is at war, we are facing an insidious threat, and it is imperative that we defeat it. No Dem recognizes this, and there is no other Republican WHO CAN WIN the general election.

To my good friends here, who feel they cannot support Rudy because of positions he has taken on the issues important to social conservatives, specifically abortion and gay marriage..while I completely agree with your views on these issues, I would suggest to you that it will be a little difficult to hold next year's massive pro-life demonstration in DC if the mall is contaminated by a dirty bomb. It will be hard to demonstrate against the UN, if all of mid-town Manhattan is contaminated in a NBC attack.

Excellent points, Ken...

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for the ping! Those words are so true!

[epow]

Well, count my vote for Rudy. And I do vote in primaries.

Well, count my vote for Anybody But Rudy, and I do vote in primaries too.

Earlier tonight I watched him try to wiggle out of his unqualified support of partial birth abortion and his radical anti-2nd Amendment positions of a few years ago. He didn't say anything that convinced me he is NOT still a northeastern RINO social liberal and dedicated gun-grabber. If he is the GOP nominee I'll either skip over the presidential section of the '08 ballot or vote for a 3rd party nominee.

I don't care what other qualifications a man or woman has or doesn't have, if they support legalizing the cruel murder of partially born babies, i.e., fully developed live babies as they leave the womb, they don't have the character or human decency to be a county dogcatcher, nevermind chief executive of the USA.

[Hildy]

So...Reagan overturned Roe v. Wade?

[GSlob]

abort it.