Rudy’s a No-Go

National Review ^ | 2/6/2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[PhilDragoo]

He beats Hitlery and that's a great plus. Who else could beat her among the Pubbies? Or Obama? Answer: no one, hence we should vote for the guy in spite of his negs as a conservative. There can be nothing worse than another Clinton in the WH, nothing!

[epow]

Pick your battles my friend as losing in 2008 is not a pleasant thought.

AFAIC it's no more unpleasant than "winning" with a RINO social ultra-liberal and avowed enemy of 2nd Amendment rights. Take away the R after his name and you have the typical NYC Democrat pol.

[onyx]

Your Hillary posts are the best! Thanks for the ping!

[Godebert]

"I will vote for Rudy for two reasons. I believe he will fight the war on terror and be as dogged in the face of opposition as President Bush has been. Second, I like him. I can't help it. I just do."

Since when do leftist Israeli foreign nationals get to vote in United States presidential primaries?

[Shortstop7]

You got that right.

I will never understand that concept.

[epow]

Conclusion: A President has no impact on social policy.

Not true. Bush's judicial appointments will have a major impact on social issues and so would Giuliani's, but on the opposite side of those issues.

I don't believe for one NY minute that Giuliani would appoint strict constructionist judges or Justices, who by definition are opposed to his radically liberal social policies and his strongly anti-2nd Amendment position.

[epow]

I don't believe we can successfully legislate morality at the ballot box,

Sure we can, and we always have. Laws against immoral acts such as murder, rape, theft, fraud, perjury, child abuse, etc, are the result of legislation enacted by people who were chosen at the ballot box. Laws against immoral acts such as abortion and homosexual marriage are just as legitimate as those I mentioned previously.

[devolve]

Lots of seminar sleeper-FReepers on these threads Phil

[poobear]

Thanks, I needed that ;D!

[James Ewell Brown Stuart]

LOL! Do I sound Israeli?

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

Good point, clearly national security is the big kahuna.

[juliej]

I hope that Rudy denounces his pro abortion views. He used to be pro life - come back, Rudy!

[juliej]

Even worse - we will be DEAD!!!!!

[juliej]

Last night Geraldine Ferraro blasted Rudy on Hannity & Colmes calling him the "worst mayor ever" - proving that she is the stupidest person ever nominated to be vice president (except for John Edwards, of course). You cannot deny that Rudy was a great mayor who transformed the city. Having said that, his stance on the sanctity of life is very troubling. Ann Coulter repeated that "we are the party of life" - and although she praised Rudy, she said that he must change on this issue. She is correct. The stupid Gerry tried to explain that the Imam's invocation at the DNC retreat was not anti-American or anti-Semitic. But I digress . . . Hillary and the Demos must be stopped. Period.

[ken5050]

Please see my #334 this thread. Thanks

[codercpc]

Wow, we do have "twin" conclusions. I just cannot put anything above security in 2008. I know of many conservatives that feel the same.

We have had a pro-life President for 6 years now, guess what, abortion is still legal. I would love to look for a more conservative candidate, but he/she has to be able to win!!! So far Rudy seems to nudge them out in that race. A lot could change in the next year, and I am not cutting off my options, and to tell the truth, if Condi would run (I know, not likely), I would probably jump off the Rudy bandwagon, but for today its Gulliani08 for me.

[SF Republican]

Oh I understand it is a progression and maybe a philosophical statement but it is a stretch to think if someone is ok with graffiti then someday they will be okay with murder. It is a bit much.

[arthurus]

No stretch. The problem is not the conflation of the two extremes. It is that a neighborhood that tolerates petty crimes establishes a criminal attitude and becomes a haven for criminals. A clean neighborhood where antigraffiti laws are enforced has too much police protection for the comfort of many local hoods and they leave or moderate. Enforcement is not nearly the onerous timewaster it might seem because it only has to be done vigorously for a short time and then the problem ceases to be so rife. A graffiti ridden neighborhood is a nasty looking neighborhood. Good people don't want to live there. Criminal people think it looks like home. Lack of enforcement of graffiti laws convinces youths that scofflaw is a legitimate and profitible attitude.

[DelphiUser]

>> I love Newt but can you see Dem ads again horribly smearing the candidate.
Yes, I still remember the Gingrich that stole Christmas Time cover.

>>He might win some Southern votes for Rudy. That would be good;
Yes, that would be good, more important, Newt would keep Rudy “conservative” his advice would be a boon to any white house administration IMHO.

>>Santorum, Hunter might get some voters too.
Might…

>>Who knows?
This is the problem, isn’t it (Grin).

My dream scenario is that Zell Miller joins the Pubbies, and runs for Pres (I know, It’ll never happen, but I still think it would be cool.)

[firebrand]

He stood up to Arafat--would not even allow him in Lincoln Center--and the Saudi sheik who wanted to bribe New York (hilarious that anti-Semite McKinney went grabbing at the money). All his statements on the War on Terror have shown that he has the right approach to the problem.

At his victory party in 1993 you couldn't move without bumping into an Orthodox Jew, and at his inauguration in 1994 they were front and center on the stage. He never would have allowed the anti-Semites to have the run of a neighborhood, as Dinkins did.

These two facts go together.

I'm not thinking of the TV stuff after 9/11, although that is valid too. I am thinking he is one of the best friends the Jews and Israel have had, and that that is why he deserves to be very much in the running to be our president when we deal with Iran, if it still hasn't been dealt with. I don't call this just "good conduct," the same as "every American's" opposition to Islamofascism. I call it excellent and honorable leadership, and urgently needed as we face an unprecedented wave of anti-Semitism.