Posted on 02/06/2007 8:37:52 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 — Opposition among state officials is turning into an open revolt against a federal law calling for the creation of standardized driver’s licenses nationwide that are meant to be less vulnerable to fraud.
Maine legislators started off the rebellion late last month by passing a nonbinding resolution that rejected the law, called the Real ID Act, which Congress passed in 2005. They said that it would cost the state $185 million to put into place and that instead of making Maine’s residents more secure, it would leave them more vulnerable to identity theft.
Since then, legislatures in five states — Georgia, Montana, New Mexico, Washington and Wyoming — have voted in committee or on the floor of one chamber to move similar legislation ahead. The bill adopted in a 99-to-1 vote by the Montana House of Representatives would go furthest, ordering state officials there to ignore the federal law.
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Coming from the slimes, What can anybody make of it?
whot, rebellion against a recommendation of the 911 commission?
Personally I have no problem with Maine driver's licenses not being accepted as ID for anything except driving in Maine (and cashing state of Maine welfare checks of course).
Do this to people coming into this country. Just because others abuse our system, don't change the way we live. The hell with them. Force Congress to do their job and get rid of the illegals. The more we sit and talk about them, rather than getting rid of them, the more there will be. You'll never get rid of them unless you start the process.
Coming from the slimes, What can anybody make of it?
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Big Brother just keeps trying. Removing states rights and power is a socialist objective.
Remembering when....
Jacobus Lambertus Lentz, collaborated with the Nazis in 1941 to improve the existing ID cards and data processing systems.
August 17 (1941), Lentz devised a unique tamper-proof personal identification card that could not be forged. Translucent inks were employed to print key words that disappeared under a quartz lamp. The stamp franking was acetone-soluble. Photos of the individual were affixed front and back through a window transparently sealed and adhered with permanennt glue. A fingerprint of the person's right index finger was then impressed upon one of the photos so it always displayed through a small window. The individual's signature on watermarked paper completed the document, which included personal details.
Having created an ID Card, Lentz then anticipated the occupying Nazis demands for censuses and lists of Jews and non-Jewish slave labourers (categorised by skills and education), which were used for the mass arrests and deportations, through his IBM Hollerith punched card analyses.
This is about votes. Next step is to require voters to show an ID before they vote.
Now, who wouldn't want that?? Hmmmmm......??
Why should we believe that just because the feds have several repetitious database of already available information (IRS, Social Security,Passports etc), that they can somehow protect us with a national ID?
Protect us from what???? Identity theft?? won't happen
Illegal immigration??? Won't happen
Terrorist cells??? won't happen. At least not to the extent we are led to believe that this national ID card will solve a lot of problems. It won't.
States have the right to reject this. And they should. The Feds need to enforce the laws they already have and a lot of the problems we have in our nation would be curtailed.
Personally if the next 9/11 type attack occurred and the terrorists uses a tampered drivers license that does not conform to Fed Law from one of these rebelling states, I think the federal government should send the bill to that state to cover the cost of cleanup, injuries, death, etc and etc. Furthermore I would have the Attorney General file as friends for the private citizen sue the state for inaction and negligence.
Hey knuckle head, what do you think the airline ask for as ID before you can board the plane. DRIVER'S LICENSE. So if you have a licence that one can tamper with, you just let the terrorist have a tool to board the plane.
I will over look the name calling.
Missouri already has tamper proof Drivers Licenses.
But for the benefit of the protection freak...perhaps a good supplemental ID for airline travel is a PIN or a Password not located on the ID? But that is probably too easy for people to forget. But government can remember!!! For the majority of Americans who DO NOT travel by air, why would they need an airline approved special document anyhow?
BUT......Would a federally issued ID have any exclusive tamper proofing that the State ID don't already have??
Or are you one of those people that want to carry a RFID chip in your wallet so your location can be known by whoever has the technology?? The bad guys always seem to get what they want regardless of the security. Then what is the upgrade?? A microchip in our forehead?
IF you freak out at the sight of a light brite???
NAtional ID is hysterical over reaction to protect you from a shadow.
The purpose of these rules is not to acheive the stated purpose, but to make the writers of the rules feel good and important.
Of course I understand. Control the peoples fears, and you have great power to manipulate.
Half of the terrorist on 9/11 overstayed their visa's. Under the fed law you have to show US citizenship or visa to get a license. It requires money to revamp many of the state systems to have a tamper proof one and practice the requirements outlined by the 9/11 commission. Some states balk from a cost issue, others do not want to upset illegal immigrants and others for liberterian reasons. Well if a terrorist who overstays their visa gets a drivers license from these states, boards a plane and kills people in a complying state, guess what, the feds should help the complying state sue the noncomplying state as well as the victims of the attack for losses and death due to polticial negligence. Want to take bets how the trial will come out???????
Just heard on tonights news that Missouri Lawmakers have proposed legislation that blocks Missouri from complying with the Federal Rule.
This is a states right issue. The feds need to focus on keeping the borders protected. The states can take care of their people from that point.
I take it you don't agree with the Bush Administration on this one?
I take it you don't agree with the Bush Administration on this one?
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If the word "illegal" (referring to criminal aliens) is attached to anything, I not only disagree with Bush, but challenge him to address his BLATANT support of illegal's law breaking, pandering to criminals, lack of support for the Presidential oath, and total "in your face" attitude toward the American people, especially our border patrol guards, when it comes to protecting our borders and upholding every law that pertains to them.
Is that only silence I hear???
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