Posted on 02/06/2007 6:37:04 AM PST by Valin
TEHRAN (AFP) - An Iranian government-sponsored body set up to probe the veracity of the Holocaust has challenged Europe to hand over documents about the mass slaughter of Jews in World War II. Mohammad Ali Ramin, the head of the "World Holocaust Foundation" created after Iran's controversial Holocaust conference last year, said Austria, Germany and Poland in particular should supply documents. "They should hand over the proof for the dossier on the organized massacre of Jews in Europe during World War II to the independent international fact-finding committee affiliated to this foundation," the IRNA state news agency quoted him as saying on Tuesday.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ordered the creation of the foundation after inviting a number of controversial revisionist Holocaust researchers to a conference in Tehran in December that caused an international outcry. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly questioned the scale of the Holocaust, described the mass killing of six million Jews in World War II as a "myth" and also called for Israel to be "wiped from the map". The foreign researchers invited to the conference -- some of whom have criminal records at home -- gave papers claiming the Holocaust never happened on the scale assumed by the vast majority of historians.
Mainstream historians specialising in the Third Reich counter there is ample documentary proof that around six million Jews were killed by the Nazis in World War II although some estimates put the figure slightly higher or lower. The UN General Assembly last month unanimously approved a US-proposed resolution condemning denial of the Holocaust, in a move diplomats said was directly aimed at Iran's stance.
If you want to have some fun screwing with the mind of a leftist you can use this type of straw man argument against them..
For instance I always ask where the proof is that Arabs lived in area now known as Israel. What ever they say I simply deny it is a credible source.. It drives them crazy..
Why break someone's kneecaps, when messing with someone's head is less likely to get you arrested?
Is there no end to their ignorance?
Guess not.
How's this Iran:
We will drop oh, I don't know let's say 3-4 thousand nuclear warheads on your country until it's vaporized. Everyone will scraeam "Holocaust!", and we will say, no, they escaped, wasn't us, didn't happen, Akhmed was tinkering with his nuclear chemistry set in the basement and set off a chain reaction.
Or how about: It was an "inside job", just like 9/11. It was radical muslims looking for more recruits, etc. I can go on all day, I don't know who vaporized your country, but it wasn't us.
I was stationed in germany in 60-61, just 15 years after the war and we used the prison camp at Grafenwoehr where the nazis burned thousands in the ovens. Every soldier that was ever in those camps saw, first hand, the evidence of the holocaust. I can guarantee that anyone that has seen those awful, horrid camps would testify to the mooselimb crazies, but they still wouldn't believe it.
So is Dachau, right outside of Munich. Seen it myself; ovens, human lampshades, experimental lab...never cried so hard in my life, especially as I walked the forested glades within the complex and I realized why the vegetation is so lush and green.
****I hope EVERYONE that voted for jimmy the jerk carter in 1976 is so proud of themselves. If therehad been a real American in office instead of that worthless POS, the world might be a much better place today.****
This is very true.
When Iran entered, took over the Embassy of the United States of America and held our Ambassador and staff hostage that was an overt act of war.
Response should have been immediate and decisive as in: "You have 7 days to release the Ambassador, the staff and vacate the Embassy grounds - or we declare war on Iran."
And after 7 (or insert your own number) days there was no satisfactory response, we should have obliterated all the government buildings and military assets of Iran. Yes, I know the Ambassador and his staff would have been forfeit, but that's the way the game is played and our foreign service personnel know it.
Iran committed an overt act of war - so defined for the past 1000 years. An appropriate response from us would have nipped this entire thing in the bud.
However, we didn't have a president who had the (fill in your preferred defining asset here) to respond as he should have - as he was expected to as he had taken an oath to.
The entire world watched as he stuck himself in the Rose Garden, begged, pleaded, appeased, apologized and went down in flames in the the desert.
And so this world of terror was born. That plus Vietnam, the debacle in Somalia, the pullout of Marines (who should never have been put there in the first place) in Lebanon, the lack of response to the World Trade Center I, the lack of response to the attack on our destroyer in Yemen - and America is indeed a "paper tiger" - which China labeled us way back in the 1960's.
As for Ahmendinajad wanting proof of the Holocaust - we'll send it as soon as you send us proof that Mohammed ever lived.
The muslim brotherhod did the Jew hunting for the Nazis. He's probably related to one of the hunters himself.
Upstairs at the Holocaust Museum is the Records Room. Filing cabinets as far as the eye can see, with the file of everyone who was "processed" in the camps. The Germans kept very meticulous records. Their evil made them confident that they would get away with it.
I hope everyone continues to ignore these pissants.
I watched the History channel the other night, They showed bulldozers pushing skin clad skeletons into a mass grave.
This in itself should be proof enough for anyone.
Our politicians want us to open talks with these retards.
How can you talk to people like this? How can you make deals with idiots who wont recognise what is in their face.
Maddy Allbright, Kerry, Hillary, they cannot be that stupid.
Maybe we can make a deal. You give us proof that the 12th Imam has been hiding in a well for 1,000 years and we'll hand over the dossier.
Is Europe having fun with those "diplomatic" talks yet?
Oh yea.....those are over. Go figure.
Yes, they can. Because of their "policies", China can now shoot down our defense and communication satellites.
Treat them like the children they are and ignore them.
An independent affiliate? These jokers can't even get their doublespeak right, much less their facts.
****Upstairs at the Holocaust Museum is the Records Room. Filing cabinets as far as the eye can see, with the file of everyone who was "processed" in the camps. The Germans kept very meticulous records. Their evil made them confident that they would get away with it.****
They did get away with it. Six million died.
When I was little there were so many people in my neighborhood with tatoos on their arms I thought it was part of being an adult.
And those were the lucky ones.
To this day there is a lady in my Torah Study class who wears this tatoo.
In my writer's group was an elderly man who had been in the US Army and was one of the American soldiers who liberated one of the major concentration camps. For years he never spoke of it, but in the last several years seeing how some lunatic anti-semites are denying the Holocaust - he's begun speaking out.
As I recall there is a project to record the experiences of the soldiers who liberated these camps - to get their history before they are all gone.
They need to add The History Channel to their cable line-up.
Been there myself. You don't laugh there. You can't.
Regarding Iran, I just finished reading a fascinating bit of WWII history that I had never heard. In 1940 the Iraqi government went pro-German and the Brits overthrew them. When the Shah of Iran started cozying up to the Germans, there was a joint BRITISH-RUSSIAN invasion of Iran to overthrow him and secure the southern supply lines to Russia. Iraq and Iran have both had plenty of Nazi sympathizers in the past, and the West had to fix the problem.
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