[plan2succeed.org]

Can anyone believe this? I say it's time to amend similar laws nationwide to remove the radical agenda of the American Library Association's lawyers and lobbyists from laws like the one that caused this fiasco and return laws to common sense community standards. Anyone think this is a good idea?

SafeLibraries.org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

[plan2succeed.org]

ping.

First sentence of article: "Police tried to identify a woman they pulled from an icy river by checking on her library card, but the library would not cooperate, citing a policy set by its board."

Anyone want on of off my librarians-out-of-control ping list, let me know.

[DannyTN]

So go get a court order! You find out an hour later.

[ConservativeMind]

I don't have a problem with the library wanting to confirm police are the ones on the phone before giving out unlisted phone numbers and addresses.

Those who have a problem with this run the risk of being "pro-stalker".

[NonValueAdded]

I'd say a "depraved indifference" manslaughter charge when someone dies as a result of this nonsense might get the policies reconsidered. Not to mention a fat civil suit as a family realizes they could have been at bedside before they lost their loved one had there been timely notice. Don't know if an obstruction charge would work in this case. Of course, the next time the library needs a patron ejected or the skateboarders dispersed, they might learn about payback.

[dr_lew]

I don't entirely understand it. Presumably the card had her name on it, so it constitutes an ID in itself. Why would they need to consult the library? Well, I guess to get an address.

I thought mine had my address on it, but it just has my picture, my name, and the address of the library!

I think my old one did have my address, because I used it once for ID when I was out for a late walk ( around midnight . ) The cops were very polite and did not demand ID, but wanted to know what I was up to. I said I was out for a walk, and offered to show ID, and they seemed very happy about that, from which I inferred that they were not allowed to ask for it.

When I went digging through my wallet, it was the first thing I came to and I asked if that was all right, and they were again quite pleased with the offer. I think it had my address because they recognized it was nearby, corroborating my wild claim, and we parted like old friends.

[Zeroisanumber]

I say it's time to amend similar laws nationwide to remove the radical agenda of the American Library Association's lawyers and lobbyists from laws like the one that caused this fiasco and return laws to common sense community standards. Anyone think this is a good idea?

No. Other than blocking porn on library computers, I don't think that government has any place regulating which information can be released to whom. Court orders are easy enough to obtain for police investigations, and most anything else can be handled on a case-by-case basis.

[Doctor Raoul]

Librarians are some of the dumbest people.

What if this woman had a condition that needed immediate attention? She might have died and it would be some hand wringing liberal librarian's fault.

[AndrewC]

The name's Lt. Bookman, and we don't divulge our clients info! Say, where is the "Tropic of Capricorn Cancer"?

[uptoolate]

Police did not know how she got in the river

Was she out with Sen. Kennedy by any chance?

[peggybac]

My library card has my name on it.

[WhiteGuy]

Radical agenda of the American Library Association...............

Hardly radical.

[GovernmentShrinker]

I really don't see a problem here. Libraries are trying to protect patrons from government intrusion by having policies of not giving out information about library users. This was certainly not a "life or death" situation. The woman was already in the hands of medical professionals by the time police asked the library to ID her. She was going to get the urgent medical care she needed to save her life regardless of her identity. What purpose would be served by the library divulging her ID to authorities? As long as a library is willing to divulge information with a court order, these policies aren't likely to hinder investigations into possible terrorist or other serious criminal activities.

[OldFriend]

Threats were emailed to Brandeis University. FBI traced the call to a library in Ithaca. When the FBI arrived, the libarians refused to allow them to nab the terrorist. They insisted they needed a search warrant first.

Afterwards the librarian said it was the finest hour of her life. It took hours for the FBI to get the warrant.

Libraries are the terrorists best friends.

[wintertime]

I say it's time to amend similar laws nationwide to remove the radical agenda of the American Library Association's ,,,,,

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The same people who have so much influence over our government school indoctrination centers ( misnamed "schools").

[Alouette]

The last time I was at the library, they would not give me the books my husband had put on hold because I was carrying my own card and not his. When I said to check both cards are for the same address, they still refused, claiming that it was for "privacy."

When my husband tried to renew his library card after it expired, the library insisted on seeing 2 pieces of ID. They would not accept his passport as a valid ID.

LIBRARIANS=CONTROL FREAKS.

[Doc Savage]

If she owned a fine they'd identify her fast enough!

[aculeus]

"Privacy" fascists.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Shows what happens when "unintended consequences" are not taken into consideration.
A lesson to all who make laws: think about what you are doing!

[BuffaloJack]

I only know one librarian personally, she's a card carrying member of the ACLU. Nuff said.