Posted on 02/05/2007 6:19:33 PM PST by JTN
Somebody tried that gag here.
They sent him a photograph of a bench warrant.
we need to adopt a loser pays for CRIMINAL court.
If a defendant is found not guilty they they SHOULD be reimbursed for their legal fees for WHATEVER lawyer they have hired.
ride the bus if you are that threatened.
If you are in a bus then you don't have to worry about other drivers. Why not pass a national speed limit of 20 mph? MANDATORY FULL FACE HELMETS FOR AUTOMOBILE DRIVERS?
This is about nusance for revenue plain and simple. They don't give a poop about you or your family. Redlight cameras are documented as causing more rear end crashes. In DC the cameras were caliberated with a fast yellow. Another was coded to always show a red at the time regardless of actual timing.
enjoy the bus.
Explain how a red light camera actually prevents someone from running a red light.
The DC incident is very very common.
You also have the abilty to "hard wire" the camera to always give a positive if it has been triggered.
IOW: if the shot is in reality close, the program automatically issues the time code a full second earlier to put the person in the red light. (you could even have a delay to take the second shot of the red light even though the person passed a red.)
The DC incident was over 3 second yellow lights.
There is also a significant constitutional issue since the private company is paid by the fine. (another reason for the DC fraud)
In law school year ONE criminal law we study how a judge may not be compensated by the fines he issues. Here we have a camera company acting as judge being compensated for the crimes in which they generate the evidence.
all: millions of dollars are on the profit line, follow the money folks.
red light cameras prevent by intimidation.
of course the intimidation now cause more rear end accidents and paralysis victims.
Nah, don't think it works that way.
But again, the key issue here is that the government is using a system that:
a) Gives lots of false positives (deliberately??)
b) Has serious Constitutional flaws
c) Gives every indication that the government sees it more as a source of revenue than anything else
If safety is the goal here, there are more effective ways of attacking the problem
Then let's see it.
The same way criminal penalties keep people from robbing banks.
Here's one writer's analysis of this situation:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=20437
Read the article linked to in Post 93.
It was unconstitutional for you to have to prove your innocence.
At least everywhere I've been ticketed, it's "bail." You can pay the money and go to court to get it back, or plead guilty and surrender the money.
When you're ticketed on vacation, hundreds of miles from home, guess what 99% of the population will do. That's why they target cars with out-of-state tags. When I've gone to court for local traffic tickets, the cops usually don't show up -- for my case or the others in court at the same time -- unless there's an accident, and if the cop doesn't show the ticket is dismissed.
If you look closely, you will see that groanup signed up in 1999.
Which makes you a Nazi.
Yeah.
I'll say. He got a ticket in the mail saying he was speeding on Chester Avenue at East 71st Street. He was cited for going 48 mph in a 35 mph zone.... Hatala brought the measuring device. Butler measured the location using markers from the pictures. He determined Hatala's real rate of speed.
"Dave Hatala was traveling 40.5 mph," Butler said.
He also found the real speed for that other car, too -- 48 mph.
Hatala brought the findings to court to challenge his ticket.
"Becomes pretty clear that it wasn't your vehicle that was speeding," the judge said.
But a REAL judge would have found him speeding regardless (40.5 in a 35 mph zone)
It's like a linebacker who's trying to time the snap count, in order to blitz lol.
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