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Vanity: The ultimate harm of betraying traditional American Judeo-Christian values

Posted on 02/05/2007 4:55:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Are you suggesting that FR and FREEPERS endorse a fringe party, now?


61 posted on 02/05/2007 5:43:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: voltaires_zit
If you don't like a conservative Republican party you should stay out of it. Find another party to corrupt,

I'll stay and keep working to keep it as conservative as it can possibly be. And that means socially conservative too.
62 posted on 02/05/2007 5:43:40 PM PST by Beagle8U (SNICKERS......Its packed with fudge !)
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To: Jim Robinson
If we don't get behind a conservative candidate, we get a socialist government!!

Are you actually advocating the Constitution Party!?

63 posted on 02/05/2007 5:43:47 PM PST by Enosh
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To: HaveHadEnough

That will NOT happen.


64 posted on 02/05/2007 5:44:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: OMalley

I don't know what will win the election, but the social in social liberal can be restated as cultural liberal without changing its meaning. And being culturally liberal has precisely nothing to do with being a socialist.


65 posted on 02/05/2007 5:44:47 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson
Why didn't we groom a conservative candidate???

I agree.

And stick him as the head of a bunch of rhinos?,No.

Term limits need to be debated,these goofs on both sides of the aisle are there way to long.

Your elected for 2 years,do your job,then go home.

66 posted on 02/05/2007 5:46:15 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Beagle8U
I'll stay and keep working to keep it as conservative as it can possibly be. And that means socially conservative too.

If a true conservative somehow wins the GOP primaries, I'd donate my organs to his/her campaign.

67 posted on 02/05/2007 5:49:07 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"If a true conservative somehow wins the GOP primaries, I'd donate my organs to his/her campaign."

Great. You can be sure of one thing, It wont be a radical social liberal that wins the nomination.


68 posted on 02/05/2007 5:52:02 PM PST by Beagle8U (SNICKERS......Its packed with fudge !)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I wouldn't donate my organ; I play it too much. Maybe a ukelele..


69 posted on 02/05/2007 5:52:53 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: nopardons
You mean Hillary and/or Rudy won't be nominated? Or that, if they are, not enough votes will be siphoned away from Rudy to let Hillary win?
70 posted on 02/05/2007 5:53:40 PM PST by HaveHadEnough
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To: Enosh
Spot on!

The Republican Party never was and never has been "THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY", per se.

71 posted on 02/05/2007 5:54:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson

So how about we start up that Freeper political party now? We've already got an infrastructure in place (the website), are well-known in all conservative circles, and have a history of organization of real-world events. We could start with local elections and work our way up.


72 posted on 02/05/2007 5:55:05 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: nopardons

Obviously not.


73 posted on 02/05/2007 5:55:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: alicewonders
Hunter is doing nothing to help himself and no, the MSM isn't "shutting him out".
74 posted on 02/05/2007 5:58:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

That's what I've always objected to about the acronym RINO. Republican is the name of a group whose objective is to gain and hold political power. It's hard to imagine being that in name only. However, conservative means founded on certain principles, and it is certainly possible to adopt those principles solely for the purpose of gaining office, then dropping them. That would be a CINO. And that's what we have an administration and Congress full of. CINO, not RINO.


75 posted on 02/05/2007 5:58:27 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: alicewonders

Duncan Hunter: I'm sorry, but Americans (even just conservative Republicans) are not going to nominate someone to lead the party who has no executive experience. Let the Dems do that: Hitlery, Edwards, Kerry, Dodd, Obama, etc. etc. Far and away the best president in our lifetime was the former Governor of California. Please: no senators or representatives or trial lawyers need apply.

And while perfect conservative pro-life, pro-second amendment, pro-traditional marriage credentials would be nice, there aren't many of those with any kind of executive or leadership experience around. I remember in the 1970's wondering if Republicans would allow Reagan to be their nominee -- after all, he was divorced... he was part of the Hollywood elite... his kids were a bit wacky. Some people even wondered about his commitment to the pro-life movement.

What I'm suggesting is focus on the first principles: this country needs a proven experienced leader. One who is prepared to fight the war on terror at home and abroad. One who believes in limited government and "republican" principles: states rights; strict constructionist; low tax rates; personal responsibility; eliminating pork in the budget; focusing on top priorities and seeing that they are accomplished.

Rudy.


76 posted on 02/05/2007 5:59:08 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds (“The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.”)
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To: Beagle8U
"If you don't like a conservative Republican party you should stay out of it. Find another party to corrupt,"

Amen! None of these moderates will answer my question of: If you don't believe that conservative ideas can win then why are you in the republican party?

Actually there is a party that supports their beliefs of low taxes and unencumbered immoral behavior: The Libertarians.

Moderate republicans are nothing more than liberals who don't like high taxes. A pox on the lot of them!
77 posted on 02/05/2007 5:59:51 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

That sounds like Newt to me, Rudy. And the socons will submarine him in an instant.


78 posted on 02/05/2007 6:01:55 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: samm1148

> Actually there is a party that supports their beliefs of
> low taxes and unencumbered immoral behavior: The
> Libertarians.

Once upon a time, there was a libertarian wing of the Republican party.

Maybe driving out the people you agree with 60% of the time wasn't the greatest tactical move?


79 posted on 02/05/2007 6:01:58 PM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: Enosh

LOL. No. I'm suggesting we stick to the pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-gun, pro-individual freedom, small government, low tax, strong national defense principles and shun the liberal candidates. You know. Kinda like we would expect from conservative REPUBLICANS.


80 posted on 02/05/2007 6:02:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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