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Part 1 of a 10 part series. I believe that although Part 1 may have been written last year, this is the first time it's been published. Also, I did a search and it hasn't been posted.

This article is very important because it proves what sloppy scientists the top people are in the global warming movement.

1 posted on 02/05/2007 12:38:28 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Looks like an interesting series. Thanks for the post.


2 posted on 02/05/2007 12:58:43 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: LibWhacker

Thanks for the post. I've read some of the articles in the series, but not this one; I did read McIntyre and McKitrick's work when it came out. I've thought for years that the science was settled - anthropogenic global warming is BS, but these turkeys aren't going to shut up till they've sustained some post mortem cooling, or their money gets cut off.


3 posted on 02/05/2007 1:09:14 AM PST by caveat emptor
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To: LibWhacker
:( does this mean i have to stop running around screaming "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!" ??? oh wait, i didn't do that...lol

thanks for posting this, it looks like it will be a very interesting series! :)

4 posted on 02/05/2007 1:17:54 AM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: LibWhacker

Excellent and valuable find for debunking the global warming mystics, errr, 'scientists'.


5 posted on 02/05/2007 1:37:28 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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To: LibWhacker

Wonder when the New York Times will report that all their fear mongering is based on bad scinece.


6 posted on 02/05/2007 1:44:05 AM PST by Always Right
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To: LibWhacker

BTTT


7 posted on 02/05/2007 1:55:17 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: LibWhacker
" Mann's hockey-stick graph may be wrong, many experts now acknowledge, but they assert that he nevertheless came to the right conclusion."

Sounds familiar.

Good post LibWhacker

8 posted on 02/05/2007 1:58:59 AM PST by Ditto
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To: LibWhacker

BURN THE WITCH!

/sarcasm


9 posted on 02/05/2007 1:59:50 AM PST by Reform4Bush
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To: LibWhacker

The left don't actually give a rat's @$$ about the planet (eg. just look at Gore's lifestyle) and don't believe in this junk science any more than we do. To them global warming, sympathy for Islamic terrorists, multiculturalism, PC, anti-globalization, anti-Christianity are all the same. They're all a means to one end -destruction of capitalism and Western culture.


10 posted on 02/05/2007 2:28:42 AM PST by generalhammond (Can you lie with a straight face - auditions held now for the Rat president of the USA)
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12 posted on 02/05/2007 3:34:53 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: LibWhacker

Excellent post. I've already visited the site and I'm going to print out all the articles for my own reference, but I hope you post all ten of them here. I'll be one of the people bumping them.


14 posted on 02/05/2007 3:44:42 AM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: LibWhacker
Wegman is demonstrating that old canard - "figures don't lie, but liars figure". That's why they don't want statisticians involved - they'll point out the statistical manipulation and misrepresentation that goes on.
15 posted on 02/05/2007 4:13:04 AM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: LibWhacker
The below link is a detailed article which discusses CO2 and its affect in the global warming debate. The article is lengthy and detailed. But it does discuss the problem with the models that predict global warming as a result of increased CO2 levels. They have to make assumptions (that his article points to data showing as incorrect) to get the increase in global warming caused by greenhouse gases

Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

The computer models on which forecasts of global warming are based predict that tropospheric temperatures will rise at least as much as surface temperatures (14). Because of this, and because these temperatures can be accurately measured without confusion by complicated effects in the surface record, these are the temperatures of greatest interest. The global trend shown in figures 5, 6 and 7 provides a definitive means of testing the validity of the global warming hypothesis.

Figure 8: Tropospheric temperature measurements by satellite MSU for North America between 30º to 70º N and 75º to 125º W (dark line) (17, 18) compared with the surface record for this same region (light line) (24), both plotted with 12-month smoothing and graphed as deviations from their means for 1979 to 1996. The slope of the satellite MSU trend line is minus 0.01 ºC per decade, while that for the surface trend line is plus 0.07 ºC per decade.
Figure 9: Qualitative illustration of greenhouse warming. Present: the current greenhouse effect from all atmospheric phenomena. Radiative effect of CO2: added greenhouse radiative effect from doubling CO2 without consideration of other atmospheric components. Hypothesis 1 IPCC: hypothetical amplification effect assumed by IPCC. Hypothesis 2: hypothetical moderation effect.

16 posted on 02/05/2007 4:27:32 AM PST by alligator (To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant.)
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To: LibWhacker

Excellent. However, I would argue that while it is great that a fully qualified expert has passed judgment, i.e., a death sentence, on the fallacies of the Mann "hockey stick", his basic conclusions were reached by others primarily on the basis of gross measurement errors associated for all periods prior to satellites - namely 950 of the prior 1000 years! Everyone knew this as a piece of commonsense - except the fanatics ignored it.

I do note with interest one other neat aside in Prof. Wegman's conclusions: He argues for increased employment of PhD level Statisticians on government funded climate studies!! As I have said before, "follow the money."


17 posted on 02/05/2007 5:09:54 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: LibWhacker

I just checked out the other 9 articles. Solomon has done an excellent job putting together the basis for a more reasoned and informed debate. I particularly like the one on Mars, but I will not steal your punch line. Thanks for the great find.

The whole GW debate reminds me of what was reputed to be the world's funniest joke: The one about Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson and a camping trip - except the punchline is now - its the Sun you damned fool!


18 posted on 02/05/2007 5:26:35 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: LibWhacker
The "science is settled" camp, much the larger of the two, includes many eminent scientists with impressive credentials.

The world is flat, dammit!

19 posted on 02/05/2007 5:27:39 AM PST by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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This socialist global warming movement is nearly unstoppable because the socialists are using it as a rallying cause and have closed their minds to anything else.
It has become the official religion of socialism with Al Gor as the socialist Messiah.
No amount of reason or hard science can stop religious zealots (or socialists).


24 posted on 02/05/2007 6:07:07 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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25 posted on 02/05/2007 6:47:12 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: LibWhacker

The deniers just don't understand you believe in global warming because it is the right thing to do. /sarc


28 posted on 02/05/2007 7:59:08 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: D-fendr; caveat emptor; ferri; Free Vulcan; Always Right; Recovering_Democrat; Ditto; ...
Hi, everyone!... Sorry, I neglected to mention that all ten parts of this series are already available online here:

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=22003a0d-37cc-4399-8bcc-39cd20bed2f6&k=0

I merely posted Part 1 in the series. If any one of you would like to post the others, by all means, be my guest. I'd be happy to see you do it. I'd post all ten of them myself but have no time today and am actually hoping someone else will get impatient do it for me! :-)

29 posted on 02/05/2007 11:49:34 AM PST by LibWhacker
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