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Vanity: And now for the rest of the question: Has conservatism been defeated in America?

Posted on 02/04/2007 3:01:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Would you accept a gay agenda/NARAL supporting abortionist gun-grabber as your party's savior against Hillary Clinton even if it means we abandon the pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom of religion and pro-gun planks from the party's platform? And most likely ends any prayer of ever overturning Roe vs Wade or preventing gay marriage as the law of the land? And eventually leads to permanently ending any and all mention of God or prayer in the public square? And further erodes away the right of the people to keep and bear arms?

Will preachers speaking out against the gay agenda eventually become a hate crime in America? Will it soon become the law of the land that business owners must allow cross-dressing males to wear dresses in the office or face criminal/civil penalties like they do in San Francisco? Will man-boy "love" soon be accepted by the new American liberal society?

Has the anti-God, anti-America, anti-commonsense and decency ACLU, NOW and NARAL organizations defeated conservatism?

Is conservatism dead in the Republican Party?

Is the conservative movement dead in America?

Is God dead to Americans?


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KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; giuliani; giuliani2008; hillary; jimrobinson; mafiarudy; robinson; rudy; rudybluestatelib; rudyrino
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Jim Robinson

Conservatism has not been defeated in America. All the democratic candidates that made inroads in non-liberal areas were by and large running on conservative or at the very least moderate platforms. As far as who our nominee is, It's all about name recognition now, when the campaign gears up and the candidates debate I don't think Rudy will be left standing. I definitely think he should get a cabinet job like Homeland Security but he is too liberal for the nomination and I think by and large the primary voters know that too or at least will by the time the primaries role around. My money on who will get the nomination is Romney or if he can get the money and a grass roots campaign going and some $$$ Hunter. If Gingrich jumps in though, then it's any ones guess. The election is ours to lose in 2008.


22 posted on 02/04/2007 3:10:06 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Candidate criteria: against abortion; a nominal Christian; and competent. On a secondary level: pro-gun-rights; pro-states'rights; and fiscally responsible.

From a state where the Democrats are going to win (you're from the same state), so can vote for political groups who have roughly the same stances but probably won't win the presidency (so basically voting on principal--for President).

23 posted on 02/04/2007 3:10:18 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes.


25 posted on 02/04/2007 3:10:42 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Jim Robinson

Limbaugh for President please.


26 posted on 02/04/2007 3:11:37 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

principle....


27 posted on 02/04/2007 3:11:54 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
chances of Condi running are?

Condi came out as anti-Israel. She lost me right then.

28 posted on 02/04/2007 3:12:01 PM PST by Enosh
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To: Jim Robinson
I think there are plenty of conservatives in America, I'm worried that there aren't as many conservative politicians though. Why? I think it's as simple as corruption. Bringing home the pork buys more votes next time & it becomes a vicious cycle. I guess we really do get the government we deserve.

Speaking for myself personally, no, I could not accept a Republican candidate that is almost as liberal as the democrat"ic" candidate! I'm tired of being blamed for Republicans losing elections if they abandon their conservative base. Obviously, they can't win elections without the support of conservatives, so they had better start rethinking their strategies.

It's a very frustrating time to be a Republican!

29 posted on 02/04/2007 3:12:20 PM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President - 2008!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Convert; AnalogReigns; OMalley; bradthebuilder; Mrs. Don-o; Knitting A Conundrum; ...
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Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Jim asks a great question What say you?

30 posted on 02/04/2007 3:12:36 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Jim Robinson
Is this the live super bowl thread?
31 posted on 02/04/2007 3:12:51 PM PST by sarasmom ( War is not the most vile of the evils humanity commits . There is always apathy...)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Would you accept a gay agenda/NARAL supporting abortionist gun-grabber as your party's savior against Hillary Clinton even if it means we abandon the pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom of religion and pro-gun planks from the party's platform? "

NO. I RATHER LOSE, and come back and regroup with a conservative candidate. If we put up liberal candidates against liberal candidates, conservatism doesn't have a prayer.

I'd rather lose. In fact, I'll vote for the democrat, in the hopes that the GOP will come to its senses.

Who cares if you win the battle, but LOSE the war?

32 posted on 02/04/2007 3:13:03 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Jim Robinson
"Is conservatism dead in the Republican Party?"

There sure seem to be plenty right here that at least seem to want righteous conservatism, or traditional conservatism to be out of power. They seem to think America won't support it enough for it's candidates to win anymore and it seems to please some of them.

33 posted on 02/04/2007 3:14:06 PM PST by SierraWasp (Grayout Davis, Gang-Green Schwartzenegger... Recycled Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! Watch for it in 4!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
The conservative movement, as we knew it, is over. George Bush made sure it was dead forever. By the way, someone remind Rush Limbaugh that the Fairness Doctrine will be one of the first pieces of legislation passed and signed into law by a Dim president. Rush's non-waivering support of Karl Rove, and George Bush, helped loose what we had gained.
35 posted on 02/04/2007 3:14:42 PM PST by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: Jim Robinson

let's see what emerges in the primaries - the debate, answers to questions, defense of positions, etc. I want to hear all that, I want to see some polls too - before excluding any candidates.

I myself won't sign up for a suicide mission with a candidate that can't win the general election, that puts Hillary into the white house. I can't do it. if that makes me an "un-conservative", then so be it, but I can't sign onto that. and to what end regarding the things you posted? if Hillary wins in 2008, Roe will be untouchable for another 30 years.


37 posted on 02/04/2007 3:15:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Jim Robinson

What's left to save?


38 posted on 02/04/2007 3:16:05 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Junior_G; Jim Robinson
demographic shifts alone will spell the end of the Republican party

And the pathetic thing is that the GOP establishment is authoring their own demise in that regard by pushing amnesty for tens of millions of new Democrat voters in a country so evenly divided politically. Either they don't see it or they just don't care. ....and I'm inclined to believe the latter.

39 posted on 02/04/2007 3:16:32 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jim Robinson

I'll hold my nose and vote for a RINO, to keep "she whose name cannot be spoken" out of office. But if the RINO is a cultural liberal who supports gay marriage and a "living" Constitution, I'll stay at home.

America is Slouching Towards Gommorah -- a handful of True Believer Conservatives are just barely keeping America from racing towards Gommorah. Unless there's another Great Awakening, America will continue to slide lower and lower and ...


40 posted on 02/04/2007 3:16:47 PM PST by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust ... Anti-Hillary)
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