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TiVo sees if you skip those ads
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Sunday, February 4, 2007 | David Lazarus

Posted on 02/04/2007 1:17:12 PM PST by Reeses

TiVo revealed the other day that it's offering TV networks and ad agencies a chance to receive second-by- second data about which programs the company's 4.5 million subscribers are watching and, more importantly, which commercials people are skipping.

This raises a pair of troubling questions: Is TiVo, which revolutionized TV viewing with its digital video recording technology, now watching what people watch? And is it selling that sensitive info to advertisers and others?

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TiVo's potential to monitor (and embarrass) millions of people was made clear in 2004 after Janet Jackson's right breast made a surprise appearance during the Super Bowl halftime show.

TiVo reported that this fleeting glimpse of celebrity flesh "drew the biggest spike in audience reaction TiVo has ever measured ... as hundreds of thousands of households used TiVo's unique capabilities to pause and replay live television to view the incident again and again."

More than a few subscribers probably thought later that this wasn't the sort of thing they wanted stored in some corporate database.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: spyware; tivo
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Because Tivo plays commercials in fast-motion that requires 100% attention I sometimes stop and watch commercials with attractive women. The ad agencies may be adding images that play well at fast-forward speed. I'm not sure I want someone noting what and how many times I back up on something.
1 posted on 02/04/2007 1:17:14 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Reeses
More than a few subscribers probably thought later that this wasn't the sort of thing they wanted stored in some corporate database.

Is there anybody out there who would really be horribly embarassed by this?

2 posted on 02/04/2007 1:22:41 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Reeses; Lil'freeper

TiVO is one of the greatest inventions ever! Commercials? What commercials?


3 posted on 02/04/2007 1:27:45 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: Reeses
I've figured out how to beat them at their own game: I do not even have a TV, and am not sure what a TiVo is [I gather it is some kind of a video recorder]. This approach utterly defeats their attempts to pour their garbage down my way. As a pro bono service, I am sharing the recipe.
4 posted on 02/04/2007 1:28:49 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Reeses
...which commercials people are skipping.

Uhm, that'd be ALL of them.

5 posted on 02/04/2007 1:29:43 PM PST by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: Reeses

I used to work for TiVo. Actually , they're just storing total stats - not individual unit stats to a specific user.

In fact - there will be a crew burning the midnight oil in Alviso, CA tonight at corporate compiling the numbers. Best tech company I ever worked for.


6 posted on 02/04/2007 1:30:51 PM PST by Gman (AMiA Priest.)
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To: Egon

I HATE it when I'm watching live and try to Tivo my way forward past the commercials.


7 posted on 02/04/2007 1:31:31 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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I HATE it when I'm watching live and try to Tivo my way forward past the commercials.

I hate it almost as much when I'm watching the commercials, and my wife has to remind me that it's on TiVo.

8 posted on 02/04/2007 1:39:56 PM PST by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: Kozak

It's the best thing ever for watching Sports. Start recording, go screw around with something else for 20 min, and watch with no commercials. If you get back to live, take another break!


9 posted on 02/04/2007 1:41:25 PM PST by SShultz460
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Because Tivo plays commercials in fast-motion that requires 100% attention I sometimes stop and watch commercials with attractive women. The ad agencies may be adding images that play well at fast-forward speed.

They've been doing that since the VCR days.

10 posted on 02/04/2007 1:43:18 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: SShultz460

Amen brother
I've only had it for a year.
My adult daughter convinced me to get it.
I basically got the box for free (non HD).
On DirecTV it's only 6 bucks a month.
What a great value.


11 posted on 02/04/2007 1:47:28 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Gman

How can you arive at total stats without there somewhere being a record of the individual stats from which they're accumulated? They may not be tracking and reporting on individuals routinely, but the data has to be out there somewhere to support the totals that they do report.


12 posted on 02/04/2007 1:47:48 PM PST by BMIC
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To: Reeses

Given the opportunity I would skip all commercials.


13 posted on 02/04/2007 1:48:04 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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TiVo sees if you skip those ads

Not if I have my phone unplugged!

14 posted on 02/04/2007 1:51:28 PM PST by steveo (Is there anything else I can help you with today?)
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To: nascarnation

It does seem to blur the line between real time and reality TV.


15 posted on 02/04/2007 1:52:29 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: BMIC

I guess a better way of saying it is that TiVo doesn't save individual DVR stats when they are compiling the totals.


16 posted on 02/04/2007 1:53:47 PM PST by Gman (AMiA Priest.)
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To: SShultz460
It's the best thing ever for watching Sports. Start recording, go screw around with something else for 20 min, and watch with no commercials. If you get back to live, take another break!

That's great for watching anything with a group. You can pause and talk about what you're watching without missing what happens next; it's more fun than a room full of people silently staring straight ahead.

17 posted on 02/04/2007 1:54:07 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Reeses

Geez, am I the only one who can program his VCR? I have a VCR on every TV and record what I want, when I want. VCRs are now $60 new and there's no monthly fee. I haven't seen a commercial since 1985.


18 posted on 02/04/2007 2:00:24 PM PST by pabianice
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How can you arive at total stats without there somewhere being a record of the individual stats from which they're accumulated? They may not be tracking and reporting on individuals routinely, but the data has to be out there somewhere to support the totals that they do report.

Easily -- the records aren't flagged with a unique identifier. Imagine a turnstile that counts the number of people entering a subway station but doesn't record their identity, or a stack of letters without a return address, so you can count who said what without linking the opinions to individuals.

Not that I trust TiVo when they say they're not collecting individual stats -- I'd need an independent audit of their source code and database to be reassured.

19 posted on 02/04/2007 2:01:15 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Egon

Actually, I think TiVo is causing advertisers to become more creative, and interesting. I used to like many European commercials, many were downright funny. I see more of that appearing on US TV.


20 posted on 02/04/2007 2:03:02 PM PST by GregoryFul (There's no truth in the New York Times)
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