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1 posted on 02/04/2007 9:13:00 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

I hope you send this to Stein et al.
Well written -

I love the "give war a chance" I might have to steal that.


2 posted on 02/04/2007 9:15:55 AM PST by justche (When moderators aren't anonymous and ARE accountable, I'll consider donating again.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
"We can crush the enemy, run from the enemy, or try to change the enemy. President Bush is trying to change the enemy. It's as valid an approach as the other two alternatives."

Crushing the enemy with extreme prejudice is rarely a bad thing, IMHO.

3 posted on 02/04/2007 9:17:52 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: A_perfect_lady

The Iraq War was NOT a mistake, but losing the PROPOGANDA WAR was...

Bush tried to take the high road,be Presidential, and allow others to rebut the lies of the left, each more hate filled than the other, they have been coming 24/7-365 and still haven't stopped...

Hindsight is 20/20, but thier was no penalty for lying, no penalty for outright treason, and no penalty for selling out your country for short-term political gain...

A LIE repeated oft enough eventually becomes the accepted "Truth", and the entire Iraq affair proves it conclusively...


4 posted on 02/04/2007 9:18:59 AM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
We can ... run from the enemy

Worked reasonably well in Vietnam, except of course for the Vietnames and Cambodians.

But does anybody seriously think that if (when) we run from Iraq the jihadists won't follow us here?

5 posted on 02/04/2007 9:21:25 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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There are about 35 to 40 'republicans' that are not conservative. They are Log Cabin Republicans.

Log Cabin Republicans have a same funding source as the Democrats. The Rainbow Network and LBGT fund the Victory Funds, Log Cabin and MoveOn.

These funding sources also fund the anti war propaganda.


6 posted on 02/04/2007 9:22:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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All the "smarter than thou" prophets of the airwaves are monday morning quarterbacking a war. They say its a mistake because they are now discovering that Sunnis and Shites hate each other and it took a mass murdering dictator to keep them in check. Then theres the overblown hyped crap of no WMDs (which there where) and the on going violence.

It was not a mistake going to war. It has become a mistake, because we have allowed the media to run the war. We must now fight it in a politically correct manner, which is why we will eventually lose the war!

Wars must be fought with courage and as many dead enemy bodies as humanly possible. Thats how the Shites and Sunnis are fighting this war. Saddam understood this to mantain control. We need to kill both sides in the thousands to send the message to the rest that are thinking of turning 'radical'. Its sad to say, but ultra death and violence is the only thing that an Islamic mind understands. Crush thier spirit and thier will and they become lapdogs. Let them loose and they become pitbulls.

7 posted on 02/04/2007 9:22:38 AM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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What is it that we are watching Im seeing a police action
with our soldiers being handicapped by rules of engagement.
If we do have the most advanced military we should have finished off Iraq three years ago.
Sorry but war should be fought to win not molify critics.
So maybe you should want to give extended police actions a
chance.


8 posted on 02/04/2007 9:25:49 AM PST by claptrap (We've found a Witch can we burn her?)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I agree. I must admit that I was amazed last spring to read Willim F. Buckley complaining that at this time inWWII were are already taking backing the Phillipines, etc. Good grief! Didn't he and his fellow wearers of the ermine at Davos remember that in 1943 China --and ally of ours --has been engaged in war with Japan for 12 years already and was still losing, despite all our caterwauling about Chang's refusal to fight the Japanese--he was for some strane resason more worried about Mao and the Communists--still taking more casualties that we were in the Pacific War. Not until we got to Okinawa
did we see what the Chinese had been up against all those years.


10 posted on 02/04/2007 9:27:59 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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The mistake was going into this with a Resolution of Force instead of a Declaration of War.


11 posted on 02/04/2007 9:28:36 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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What is it with these people?
Have they so quickly forgotten that the sanctions were SLIPPING off of Saddam faster than water off a Duck's back?

Oh yea, an unfettered Iraq would have been preferable than the Dictator deposed and having been judged by his own people and terminated is WORSE??? WTF???

What variety of Pot are these guys smoking??? NEVER smoke what the DNC hands you! NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!
15 posted on 02/04/2007 9:31:45 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Of all the various pundits out there. O'Reilly is the least credible, most annoying with his patronizing "looking out for the folks" crap.

Now, as to the war in Iraq. We haven't had another successful attack on our soil since 9/11. That closes that part of the case in my opinion.

We are killing bad guys and at least delaying the day when one of these islamic countries get real nuclear capability. If and when that happens, we may regret not having simply annihilated the region. The effort to bring a different way of life to these people is a noble one and I hope it's successful. I honor those willing to make the sacrifice necessary toward the effort because the only real alternative is that we are forced by craven politicians to withdraw which will mean having to go back later and neutralize the enemy with devastating force.


16 posted on 02/04/2007 9:37:02 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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People getting chemo often wonder if it is worth it.

Islamo facism is cancer on humanity, it is a threat to civilization and can kill it. Iraq is an important front in the war on terror. But there is a more important front.

The HOME front.

And the battle there is where we can lose the fight. Our troops can do what they are sent to do. Our own peoples and politicians are the only way the war on terror can be lost.


17 posted on 02/04/2007 9:39:14 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: A_perfect_lady
Very well put, and worth reading. However it is unfortunate that there are so many Americans that still don't grasp the situation that we face. We just can not run from the Islamic fascists, they will follow us.
19 posted on 02/04/2007 9:42:37 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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while we create something utterly foreign to their experience in the very heart of their world

The reason it's a mistake is because we have failed to create something utterly foreign to them. We have instead escalated the long-simmering civil war between islamic factions, a situation over which we have no influence and we are caught between. Crush them? Fine. Leave? Fine. But we will not change them. Moreover, we have eliminated any chance of major military action - boots on the ground - to defeat and rebuild a larger creator of terror, iran. The iraq war and aftermath needed to be successful at home before it could be the template to follow elsewhere. It failed at home.

20 posted on 02/04/2007 9:44:54 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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I think Republican waffling on the war is a mistake.

Republicans need to SPEAK UP.

Start calling Democrats what they are: defeatists.

Say it. Don't think it. Say it.

Every day.


21 posted on 02/04/2007 9:45:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Mr. President: PARDON NACHO AND JOSE!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Thanks for posting this.

I strongly agree with your statement.


22 posted on 02/04/2007 9:47:27 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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Elder Bush stopped short of finishing the job.

"W" promised "shock and awe"...all we got was "slap and appeasement".

The only thing the terrorists understand is force...brute, blunt force. They bring a knife, we bring a gun...

They violated our soverignty, and we hit them with a wet noodle....what'd ya expect?

If you think blunt force won't work...when was the last time the Japanese attacked us?
24 posted on 02/04/2007 9:53:57 AM PST by FrankR (That's my opinion, it should be yours.....)
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The Big Lie is winning. The biggest of them is "Mistakes were made". mistakes were made .. mistakes were made ... Mistakes were made. "Mistakes were made". [mistakes were made]

This is a textbook Big Lie, told often enough that it's now "common knowledge". Even Republicans have to repeat the mantra in order to establish their bonnafides.

The clear implication of "Mistakes were made" is that everything in Iraq is our fault. More specifically, Bush's fault.

The problem is that nobody details what "mistakes" they're talking about. On the very rare occasion when someone does offer a specific critique, then it's often as not contradictory from other critiques. Some say "more troops were needed", some say "less troops were needed", etc. The truth is that nothing we could have done would ever have prevented the current terrorism. Not even the Israelies can prevent terrorism 100% of the time, and they have one of the best militaries and armed citizenry on the planet.

The only truth behind "mistakes were made" is we didn't fight the PR battle as well as the jihadies, and that mistake was not done in Iraq, but in New York and Washington.

The "mistakes were made" Big Lie is as empowering to the left today as any of those who were empowered by slanders against Jews in the 1930's.

The Big Lie works, every time it's tried.

25 posted on 02/04/2007 9:54:22 AM PST by narby
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To: A_perfect_lady; Nancee

Invading Iraq was not a mistake but misunderstanding Iraqi history was/is an unforgivable mistake.

To put it simply: When you're in Rome, do as the Romans do.

The violent history of Iraq dictates quelling their violence with exponentially more violence. Case in point: one man, Saddam Hussain, with a ruthless army and secret police apparatus, took care of business through extreme repression and fear.

If our values and free democracy don't allow us to use extreme force then we shouldn't have gone there in the first place.

Even if we learned enough to apply extreme force, we have to defeat the enemy within first before we can finish the job.

Unfortunately, the enemy within is now in power and their MSM allies are more empowered than ever before.

I'm afraid that all what Sadr and other terrorists have to do is wait us out, give the enemy within time to force our defeat and deliver Iraq to Iran.

What next? Send our troops back to protect Kuwait and Saudi Arabia from the mullah menace on their northern borders? Who's willing to authorize that? Do we have the right intelligence?.......

A domino effect that's unstoppable.

.


26 posted on 02/04/2007 9:54:55 AM PST by melancholy
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We'll fight them on the streets of Baghdad so that we aren't fighting them HERE. Militants from Syria and Iran are streaming into Iraq and that's a pity, but it's especially a pity for them as they would much rather stream into the United States.

......This argument is only an opinion. We rightfully credit Bush with keeping the USA secure and terror free since 9/11. But it's an irrational logical leap to say that the Iraq war is what has done this. That once we leave there "they will follow us home." If they had a way of coming into the USA and striking effectively they would have by now Iraq or no Iraq. It's not like there's just 10 of them and they're all Over There right now. It's a childish logic.
27 posted on 02/04/2007 9:57:15 AM PST by Vinomori
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