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McCain blasts 'vote of no confidence' (Hagel disagrees w/assessment by McCain)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/4/07 | Hope Yen - ap

Posted on 02/04/2007 9:10:38 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee sought to weaken support for a resolution opposing President Bush's Iraq war strategy, saying Sunday that supporters are intellectually dishonest.

Arizona Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), a 2008 presidential candidate, contended the bipartisan nonbinding resolution amounted to a demoralizing "vote of no confidence" in the U.S. military because it criticized Bush's plans to send 21,500 more troops to Iraq without offering concrete alternatives.

"I don't think it's appropriate to say that you disapprove of a mission and you don't want to fund it and you don't want it to go, but yet you don't take the action necessary to prevent it," McCain said.

"In other words, this is a vote of no confidence in both the mission and the troops who are going over there," he said, noting the proposal does not seek to cut off money for troops.

"I do believe that if you really believe that this is doomed to failure and is going to cost American lives, then you should do what's necessary to prevent it from happening rather than a vote of "disapproval," which is fundamentally a vote of no confidence in the troops and their mission," McCain said.

An early test vote is tentatively set for Monday.

A fellow Vietnam veteran, GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska, disagreed with McCain's assessment. Hagel said the resolution would make clear the Senate's belief that Bush's policy is misguided.

Hagel said the proposal also lays out alternatives such as moving troops away from the sectarian violence and closer to the Iraq border to provide "territorial integrity."

"We can't change the outcome of Iraq by putting American troops in the middle of a civil war," said Hagel, who is considering a run for the White House in 2008.

The Democratic-controlled Senate heads toward a showdown this week on the bipartisan resolution by Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va. In a bid to attract more GOP support, Warner added a provision pledging to protect money for troops in combat.

The newly worded resolution states that Congress "should not take any action that will endanger United States military forces in the field, including the elimination or reduction of funds for troops in the field."

That compromise, however, drew the ire of some Democrats, including Sens. Christopher Dodd (news, bio, voting record) of Connecticut and Russell Feingold of Wisconsin, who said it leaned too far in endorsing the status quo. They want to see binding legislation to cap troop levels, force a new vote to authorize the war or begin bringing troops home.

Republican leaders worked to block a vote on Warner's resolution. They insisted that several proposals be considered and each be subject to 60 votes — a strategy that could dilute support for Warner's measure and make it tougher for any measure to pass.

McCain, who is sponsoring a resolution expressing support for a troop increase and setting benchmark goals for the Iraqi government, sought to capitalize on some of the Democratic division. Democrats hold a 51-49 working majority in the Senate.

He said Warner's proposal makes no sense for Democrats who want stronger action. It also risks undercutting a military mission that could haunt the U.S. in the future should it fail.

"The consequences of failure are such that you will see a level of violence that far exceeds anything that we have seen," McCain said. "I believe we've got a great general there. I believe that this new strategy has a good chance of success."

Hagel said the Warner resolution strikes a careful balance for a majority of senators who oppose a troop buildup but differ on the appropriate response. If the resolution passes, some Democrats may choose to move forward with stronger measures against the war, he said.

"This is not a cut and run resolution," Hagel said.

He called McCain's proposal meaningless because it offers benchmarks but does not spell out what the U.S. government will do if the Iraqi officials fail to meet them.

"What are the consequences? Are we then going to pull out?" Hagel asked. "Are we going to cut funding? Now, that falls more in the intellectually dishonest category."

Hagel and McCain appeared on ABC's "This Week."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blasts; confidence; disagrees; hagel; mccain; wot

1 posted on 02/04/2007 9:10:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Nice tie.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., speak about Iraq during a press conference on Capitol Hill, Feb. 1, 2007, in Washington. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

2 posted on 02/04/2007 9:11:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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3 posted on 02/04/2007 9:13:49 AM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: NormsRevenge

Didn't these people call Vietnam a Civil War? This is far from a civil war. This is Iran sending terrorists to organize opposition to Democracy. The North and the South are peaceful. McCain is right for once.

Pray for W and Our Troops


4 posted on 02/04/2007 9:14:11 AM PST by bray (The only Good Insurgent is a Dead Insurgent)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The newly worded resolution states that Congress "should not take any action that will endanger United States military forces in the field, including the elimination or reduction of funds for troops in the field."


If this isn't capitulation I don't know what is.


5 posted on 02/04/2007 9:14:15 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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McCain and Hagel

When Old Warriors Collide


6 posted on 02/04/2007 9:17:40 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge
"This is not a cut and run resolution," Hagel said.

Either he's lying or he's obtuse. Either way Senator Hagel, an otherwise stalwart conservative, has lost it on Iraq and islamofascism.

7 posted on 02/04/2007 9:20:37 AM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: NormsRevenge

McCain is making a flip flopper out of me.

First I hate him, then I like him. He gives me more mindgames than my girlfriend.


8 posted on 02/04/2007 9:24:25 AM PST by Crooked Constituent
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To: Crooked Constituent
Don't be fooled by him. It's just to suck votes. He still can tell when Ted Kennedy passes corn, if you know what I mean


9 posted on 02/04/2007 9:27:45 AM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hagel is a cut and run Democrat.


10 posted on 02/04/2007 9:30:53 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: NormsRevenge
"I don't think it's appropriate to say that you disapprove of a mission and you don't want to fund it and you don't want it to go, but yet you don't take the action necessary to prevent it," McCain said."

It's appropriate if you are a "spork". "Sporks" (as in those plastic "part spoon, part fork" utensils) don't do either task (victory or defeat) very well but it's easy for a spork politician to claim he/she is doing either, depending on what is best for his or her political self-interest at any given time. McCain is committed to victory. Hillary is a spork.

11 posted on 02/04/2007 9:37:22 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: NormsRevenge; All

Great/humorous FReeper comments BUMP!


12 posted on 02/04/2007 9:50:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Crooked Constituent

you know what they say about a broken watch, even it's right twice a day. I still don't like him.


13 posted on 02/04/2007 10:13:18 AM PST by txroadkill
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To: txroadkill

At least with him you will still have a watch, the dems would just steal it from you even if it was broken.


14 posted on 02/04/2007 1:11:14 PM PST by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: headstamp
"The newly worded resolution states that Congress "should not take any action that will endanger United States military forces in the field, including the elimination or reduction of funds for troops in the field."

How do you get capitulation out of that?

....I don't like the idea of ANY resolution either....

15 posted on 02/04/2007 9:28:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Capitulation to the enemy.


16 posted on 02/04/2007 11:10:45 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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