Inconvenient Kyoto Truths

newsweek ^ | 2 4 07 | George F. Will

[God luvs America]

it was then rejected by major nations such as Russia....

[lmr]

Spot on.

[Dog Gone]

Very good.

[gcruse]

"Are we sure the climate at this particular moment is exactly right, and that it must be preserved, no matter the cost?"

That's the part that gets me. It used to be conservatives that were assumed to be against change. But the left's enthusiasm for swamps (wetlands), jungles (rain forest), and other throwbacks to undeveloped real estate points to a mindset that what we have today must be maintained as if it were the pinnacle of some global effort. The same goes for the better-than-an-Ice-Age climate.

Progress is change, but the progressives don't want it.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

The self-pitying climate Cassandras' consensus catechism rules the Nation's largest-audience nighttime talk show; or has Art Bell jumped the shark?

If a sycophant, global warming book-promoting guest slips and casts an infinitesimal doubt Mr. Bell is on them to recant!

Was it the lukewarm reception -- even some ridicule on the Today Show -- his book received and now that there's much chatter about "global warming" his ego is contemptuously shouting, "I told you so! I told you so!"? Maybe.

I believe that we are entering a cycle, what can we do about it? Mr. Bell, et al offer only banal Bush-bashing alternate-engery stuff, dire warnings, and Kyoto's extreme taxes on energy for us and transfer of the money to developing nations (China and India?).

[mewzilla]

Last I checked most of the signatories have increasing emissions levels.

Most were in violation.

Anyone heard if this is still the case?

[BuffaloJack]

Kyoto was rejected by the USA because it is just socialist bull doodie.

[bray]

Nise Jab!! Wonder how much Blood for Oil Kerry burned getting his arse over to rip the US?? Probably took his G5 and burned 2 tons of oil. So who is the real Pariah??

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Fair Paul]

LOL! I guess these guys didn't study and work hard enough at Polar Bear High.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

Here's an inconvenient truth:

The IPCC estimated cost of stabilizing CO2 concentrations at 450 ppmv ranges from a low of nearly $US4 trillion to a high of $12 trillion. (1990 US$, present value discounted at 5% per year for the period 1990 to 2100)

This a figure that you'll never read in the MSM; but you can see it on the IPCC site here:

http://www.ipcc.ch/pub/correctionfig73.pdf

The IPCC is the official UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. (If you can't believe the UN, who can you believe./s)

BTW, a "present value" (PV) calculation is analogous to the cost of, say, a house you buy with a mortgage. The PV is the cost of the house. The total amount you would make in mortgage payments is a much greater amount.

[tsmith130]

I have heard that. I read it somewhere and have been trying to find it for the past couple of days.

[hinckley buzzard]

Two things everyone needs to understand about the IPCC: One, it has few climatologists, maybe fifty at the most, among its 2500 political functionaries. Two, it was established to provide a basis for a treaty on climate change, which was already assumed to be happening.

Addressing the question of whether or not GW occurs is NOT part of the IPCC's mission. If the IPCC were to find that global warming in fact is not a dire threat, it would be disobeying the very orders under which it was created.

By now everyone should be clear: IPCC is a political organization, not a scientific one. It generates political documents, not scientific reports. It has a minority of members who are scientists, most of whom are not experts on climate, but who are politically obedient.

The IPCC represents the Lysenko-ization of meteorology.

[Islander7]

Laughing My A$$ Off!!!

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

---Climate Cassandras say ... ---

Unfortunately, in this case Freepers are the Cassandras.

Cassandra always made true predictions; but her curse was that no one would listen to them.

The climate alarmists are making false predictions, and it seems almost everyone is listening to them.

[DuncanWaring]

Probably took his G5 and burned 2 tons of oil.

Full fuel on a G550 is 41,300 lbs - nearly 21 tons.

The "lower rent" G500 only takes 35,200 lbs - just short of 18 tons.