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To: YCTHouston
which has been shown to have no serious side effects.

I am sure that this same thing was said about Thalidomide at one point.

2 posted on 02/02/2007 1:32:15 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ConservaTexan

Um, thalidomide is still around and still prescribed today - just not to women who are pregnant or who could become pregnant. It also wasn't thoroughly tested, and apparently this stuff has been.


6 posted on 02/02/2007 1:34:15 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ConservaTexan
I'd want proof of no ill effects after a 20 year study...

I can understand ordering vaccines for contagious diseases like Measles and Mumps.. but this is going too far. Is this the way the Republican part is going? Nanny State like the Libs?

I'm concerned..
14 posted on 02/02/2007 1:38:20 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts ("Listen to the sustain!" "I'm not hearing anything." "You would thought, if it were playing.")
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To: ConservaTexan
This is going back quite a few years but as I recall Thalidomide was used extensively in Europe and the UK fortunately for only a short period of time. Its seems the drug relieved morning sickness that can be a problem during the first trimester. Once the birth abnormalities started coming in from all over it was yanked from the market.

Fortunately the drug never got FDA approval in the states because of one woman who sat on the FDA review panel. The pharma company pushed the FDA hard on it but this woman would not budge. She had heard via her professional grapevine of the first defects and physicians in Europe were suspecting the Thalidomide. Thanks to her we were spared the bulk of the Thalidomide tragedy.

There were some cases here. These women had brought the drug back from Europe. As I recall it did not take many doses to cause the defects--a couple of gals only took it 3 or 4 times. That first trimester is the foundation for a healthy baby and the drug interrupted the development resulting in deformed or no limbs.

My daughters are all too old but if I were faced with giving them this vax I would seriously hestitate. The longitudinal studies on this vax have yet to come in. Talk to me in 10 or 15 years once the current group of girls who receive this vax have healthy babies.

Also, this vax does not prevent all forms of cervical cancer. The ads state that pertinent fact in small letters.

54 posted on 02/02/2007 1:54:01 PM PST by Tarheel (If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere... Rudy--2008)
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To: ConservaTexan

BUT - There ARE side effects. Check this out -



National Vaccine Information Center
www.NVIC.org

Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine Safety

Analysis of Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System Reports:
Adverse Reactions, Concerns and Implications

On June 8th 2006, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced the approval of GARDASIL, and on June 29th the Advisory Committee on Immunizations Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend adding GARDASIL human papilloma virus vaccine to the Centers for Disease Control's national childhood recommended immunization schedule. On July 14th the first report of a serious reaction to the vaccine was filed with the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).
A 16-year-old Illinois girl was vaccinated July 7th and 13 days later developed symptoms eventually diagnosed as Guillian-Barre Syndrome. A 14-year-old girl in the District of Columbia was vaccinated on July 11th and complained of severe pain immediately following the injection, fell off the examining table and experienced a 10 to 15 second fainting spell ending up in the emergency room with a headache and speech problems. The report of this reaction, the first in the nation, was filed on July 14th, 15 days after the ACIP vote.

Six months later, 82 reports of GARDASIL reactions have been submitted to VAERS on behalf of at least 84 young girls and 2 boys.[1] Reaction reports have come in from 21 states and the District of Columbia.[2] Reactions were reported for children and young adults ranging in age from 11 to 27. Of the reports indicating what day the vaccine was given and the reaction occurred, 63 percent stated that the reaction occurred the same day the vaccine was given. All but three of the reports were for reactions that occurred within one week of vaccination.

This document is divided into three sections. The first section describes reaction reports for a number of reported adverse events: neurological symptoms including syncopal episodes and seizures, arthralgia and joint pain, Guillian-Barre Syndrome, and other immunological reactions. The second section addresses concerns related to vaccinating individuals already infected with HPV. The last section discusses issues that need to be addressed by government regulators and the manufacturer and considerations for clinicians and consumers.

Reported Adverse Events

Presumably, the reactions described below occurred after the first dose of GARDASIL. GARDASIL is given in a three-dose series. None of the reports stated that the children and adults experiencing problems had previously been vaccinated with GARDASIL.

Syncopal Episodes and Seizures. One-quarter of all reports filed after GARDASIL vaccination were for neurologic adverse events including loss of consciousness, syncope, syncopal events and seizures. An additional five reports included symptoms of dizziness and feeling faint.

Syncope is defined as a temporary suspension of consciousness due to generalized cerebral ischemia (inadequate blood flow and lack of oxygen). The reports of syncopal episodes and their descriptions are remarkable. A physician from Washington State reported that in one morning, three patients experienced syncopal episodes. On August 8th another physician's office reported that two patients experienced syncopal episodes on the same day.

Although these reports did not detail what happened to the individuals experiencing these syncopal episodes, other reports did. The 14-year-old DC girl mentioned earlier experienced a syncopal episode combined with amblyopia (poor vision in one eye), abnormal speech, vomiting, and headache. Also experiencing vision problems, a 17-year-old New York girl reported feeling dizzy and her vision went "black for a few seconds" and she turned pale and lips turned purple and she also had fever and chills. Similar to the DC girl, on July 18th immediately after being vaccinated, a 22-year-old Kentucky woman experienced slurred speech accompanied by pallor and shock. On August 29th, two hours after being vaccinated, a 15-year-old New York girl who had a history of asthma and was on four asthma medications experienced difficulty swallowing prompting a visit to the emergency room. On August 17th, 15 minutes after being vaccinated, a 14-year-old Pennsylvania girl passed out in the car on the way home.

Most of the reports do not describe what happened as a result of the syncopal episode but a few do. One 11-year-old Florida girl fell from the examining table and two Washington girls fell - a 16-year-old girl fell and hit her head on a carpeted concrete surface and a 14-year-old girl fell down and broke her nose.

Whether the 22 girls who experienced syncopal episodes actually experienced atonic seizures cannot be determined from these reports. Four girls, however, displayed observable seizure activity. The 11-year-old Florida girl who fell from the table also displayed "tonic posturing." Tonic posturing is a type of seizure where sustained contraction of muscles in the legs and arms occurs and consciousness is impaired. The 16-year-old Washington girl who fell and hit her head on the floor lost consciousness for one minute and displayed tonic posturing of her right hand. Additionally, a 15-year-old girl from Virginia was described as having "a mild seizure." In California, a 13-year-old girl was walking down the hall after her vaccination, fell and had a 15-second tonic/clonic seizure. Tonic/clonic seizures are also known as "grand mal" seizures.

Additionally, there were reports of dyskinesia (difficulty or distortion in performing voluntary movements) and hypokinesia (slow or diminished movement of the body musculature) both of which have neurological implications.

Arthralgia, Joint Pain and Fever. Arthralgia is defined as pain in the joints. Concerns about arthritis were raised during the GARDASIL clinical trials. Reports of arthralgia in one or more joints accompanied by fever were noted in five instances from four young girls and women in Wisconsin, Texas and New York, and one 18-year-old New York male.

Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Reports state that two recently vaccinated 16-year-old girls - one from Illinois and the other from Mississippi - were diagnosed with Guillian-Barre Syndrome (GBS) following vaccination with GARDASIL. In both cases, the onset of symptoms occurred 13 days after vaccination. According to the National Institute for Neurological Disorders and Stroke:

GBS is a serious disorder in which the body's immune system attacks part of the peripheral nervous system. The first symptoms of this disorder include varying degrees of weakness or tingling sensations in the legs. In many instances, the weakness and abnormal sensations spread to the arms and upper body. These symptoms can increase in intensity until certain muscles cannot be used at all and, when severe, the patient is almost totally paralyzed. … Vaccinations can trigger onset of GBS.[3]

The Illinois girl described earlier was vaccinated on July 7th and symptoms were evident by July 20th. The girl also experienced gait abnormalities (trouble walking properly), asthenia (weakness without loss of strength), paresthesia (burning, prickling, tingling or numbness sensation usually felt in the hands, arms, feet and legs), and hyperkinesia (abnormal increase in muscle movement). The Mississippi girl was vaccinated on July 31st and by August 13th she had increasing numbness and tingling in her feet and hands and was subsequently evaluated by a neurologist and diagnosed with GBS. The current health status of these girls is not known.

In both of these cases, the girls were also vaccinated with Aventis Pasteur's Menactra, a vaccine for meningococcal infections. Menactra has previously been associated with Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and the FDA and others have issued alerts.

Other Adverse Reactions. Additionally, a number of other reactions to GARDASIL are noted in VAERS reports and they include: urticaria (hives); pruritus (itching); macular and papular rashes; blisters and vesicles near the injection site; swollen arms; lymphadenopathy (swollen lymph nodes); red, hot swollen knots at injection site; burning, stabbing, severe and radiating pain at the injection site and in the affected limb during and after injection; nausea and vomiting; infections and skin ulcers, and other allergic reactions.

More at: http://www.nvic.org/


70 posted on 02/02/2007 2:07:38 PM PST by SueRae
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To: ConservaTexan

12 years old! I just don't get it. Most 12 year old girls I knew were not having sex when I was 12. There may have been one but that was it. So let's make everyone take the vaccine because of the one slut in the class.


136 posted on 02/02/2007 3:17:27 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ConservaTexan

Where, in the Texas Constitution, does Perry derive this authority from.?


294 posted on 02/02/2007 7:04:45 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: ConservaTexan

CAn someone tell me when we are going to start the recall election. Gov. Zoolander needs to be recalled as soon as possible


354 posted on 02/02/2007 9:10:52 PM PST by genxer
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To: ConservaTexan

Where would we ever be without the ever loving watchful eye and caring hand of our friendly state officials? They know so much more than we. They are so much smarter, wiser, caring,,, they only eat perfect foods, and drink the finest water. Their clothes are knit with the finest gold by little angels sent from God. When they pass by in their special SUV's, birds sing and butterflies flutter. The clouds part and the sun rays shine down upon their faces as they speak their commands! I can barely look upon them as they speak,, I know how unworthy I am,, I feel so ashamed in my simple minded ways!


538 posted on 02/03/2007 7:04:31 PM PST by freemike
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To: ConservaTexan

Absolutely Outrageous!

This is the same Merck that was so irresponsible that it let over 60,000 (that figure could be low) Americans DIE on Vioxx just two years ago; and a state government is going to force parents to inject their minor children with a drug that is in my book unproven, since it has only been available since June?

Rick Perry is no conservative, if that's his position. He can kiss any chance of running for President goodbye!


672 posted on 02/05/2007 2:37:19 PM PST by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: ConservaTexan

Merck also said that about VIOXX, later found to cause heart attacks.


695 posted on 02/06/2007 10:38:27 AM PST by Palladin (You cannot glorify God better than by a calm and joyous life.--Spurgeon)
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