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Hunting for votes(Duncan Hunter)
World ^ | February 1, 2007 | Jamie Dean

Posted on 02/01/2007 9:02:31 PM PST by GulfBreeze

Hunting for votes

Long-shot campaigns aren’t new to Duncan Hunter, and now the California Republican hopes a platform of closed borders and restricted trade will beat the odds and lift him to the White House | Jamie Dean

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C.— U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) is a presidential candidate with "hattitude." That's according to the purple writing on the bright red cap he sported two days after launching his bid for the presidency in a South Carolina hotel filled with men in dark suits. On this breezy morning, Hunter mingled with a very different crowd: some 500 women, mostly 50 and over, in flamboyant purple outfits and outrageous red hats.

Hunter's visit to the regional convention of the Red Hat Society at the Myrtle Beach Hilton wasn't the first stop on his third official day of campaigning for the presidency, but it was the most telling: In a presidential race that promises to be the most expensive in history, one of the least-known candidates in the field needs to hunt for votes wherever he can find them.

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Hunting for votes is something the 14-term congressman from San Diego knows about. Hunter, 58, first ran for Congress in 1980 as a young attorney with a storefront law office when his district was only 29 percent Republican. Ronald Reagan was running for the presidency that year, and Hunter's father thought his son could ride the conservative wave. "So we went out in the rain and got our signatures," Hunter told WORLD. "And we won a real underdog race."

Twenty-six years later, Hunter is one of the chief underdogs in the race for the White House: A recent CNN poll found that only 1 percent of likely Republican voters favored the congressman for the presidency.

Despite the odds, Hunter acts like a man who is serious: He was one of the first candidates to announce his intentions, and he unexpectedly announced that next year he will give up the congressional seat he's held more than a quarter-century to focus on his run for the White House.

The congressman shrugs off questions about his slim chances, saying his platform is unique enough to gain traction. During a weekend visit to New Hampshire in early January, he told The Manchester Union Leader: "I think I'll just tell people what I stand for and we'll see if we can't attract a crowd."

At a Saturday breakfast of local Republicans in Myrtle Beach, Lois Eargle arrived early to escort Hunter to his next crowd: The Red Hat Society is a club for women over 50 who meet for tea wearing purple outfits and red hats to celebrate growing old with spunk. Standing near a cluster of palm trees, Eargle was easy to spot in a sharp purple suit and sleek matching pumps, red scarf, red lipstick, red nails, and red jewelry.

After greeting a handful of locals outside, Hunter followed Eargle to her shiny red Cadillac, where her wide-brimmed, red hat sat perched on the back seat. On the drive south, Eargle made polite small talk in a refined Southern accent, but soon grew direct: "Now what makes you think you can beat John McCain?"

It's a good question. Hunter, who supported Sen. McCain (R-Ariz.) in the 2000 campaign, doesn't hesitate: "Because I've got the right position on border security. . . . It sets me apart from the other candidates."

Hunter is famous in his district for his strict positions on border control and immigration. The congressman led efforts to build the 14-mile border wall along the San Diego-Tijuana border, and he has sponsored legislation to extend the wall another 700 miles into Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. The borders are porous, he says, and vulnerable to criminals and terrorists: "The national security issue is even more important than the immigration issue."

But the immigration issue isn't going away, and while some Republican presidential candidates—like McCain—support a guest-worker program that would provide a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country, Hunter contends "it doesn't make sense" to discuss such programs before the borders are secure. He says perceived benefits could create a rush to cross illegally: "We're like a house that doesn't have any sides. . . . Let's put up walls before we talk about how to adjust the front door."

As for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants already in the "house," the congressman refused to offer a plan, except to say: "I think we should follow current law. . . . We deport thousands of people a month right now."

Hunter introduced constitutionally questionable legislation this month to pardon two Texas border patrol agents convicted of shooting a fleeing man in the back while on duty. The wounded man was later identified as Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, a drug smuggler attempting to cross the border illegally with 700 pounds of marijuana. Convicted by a federal court in El Paso, agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean reported to prison this month to serve 11- and 12-year sentences.

Federal prosecutors during a two-and-half-week trial said that Davila initially tried to surrender to the agents with empty hands but then continued to flee on foot. Compean fired 14 rounds at Davila and Ramos fired once, shooting him in the buttocks. The agents then cleaned up the scene and filed a false report, according to prosecutors, who said the agents didn't know Davila was a drug smuggler until after the incident.

The agents have denied the prosecutors' version of events and said they believed Davila was armed and aggressive. Hunter, who has reviewed court documents, believes the agents and says they should be freed: "Even if you believe the facts as presented by the prosecution, which I don't, these men still received longer sentences than some convicted murderers."

When asked if the agents' sentences should be reduced instead of thrown out, Hunter said an administrative punishment would have been more appropriate, and he says more than 70 lawmakers have signed onto his bill for a pardon. U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton maintains that the evidence pointed to the agents' guilt: "If they believed [Davila] was a threat, why did they abandon him? And if they truly believed the shooting was justified, why did they not report it?" Compean and Ramos are appealing the verdict while hoping for a pardon.

As Hunter talked about border security, Eargle navigated her long Cadillac into a small parking space at the Myrtle Beach Hilton Hotel, and Hunter carried her bulky pink bag inside. On the hotel's second floor, a dozen vendors sat behind long tables in a narrow corridor outside a large meeting room, selling scarves, shawls, sashes, pins, costume jewelry, T-shirts, and hats, all in red and purple.

Inside the convention, Hunter and his communications director were the only men in a room packed full of 500 chattering women in red hats of every variety: cowboy hats, visors, baseball caps, wide-brimmed hats with tall plumes of feathers, and others with huge bouquets of flowers. Easing his way through the tight room, Hunter joked: "This is my first Red Hat event."

A long buffet line wound around large tables with red-checkered tablecloths and elaborate centerpieces with themes like the roaring twenties, beach trips, and New Year's celebrations. As a lady carrying a bright red parasol with purple fringe strode by, Eargle introduced Hunter to tables of lively women eating a hearty brunch: "This is Duncan Hunter, ya'll, and he's running for president of the United States!" Most seemed impressed, but others admitted confusion: "What are you running for, honey?" asked one elderly woman. "President," Hunter replied with a smile. "But today I'm just Lois' bag man."

Hunter donned the red baseball cap he bought for his wife and greeted small crowds of women eager to shake hands and pose for photos with a presidential candidate. A woman with a purple jacket and red satin hat topped with a purple bouquet of flowers hurried over. "I see you all the time on Wolf Blitzer and Lou Dobbs!" cried Maria Jordan from Myrtle Beach.

Adding that she used to be "a John Edwards girl," Jordan said she plans to support Hunter because of his positions on immigration and supporting the military. Moving along with the crush of the crowd, Jordan waved goodbye to Hunter and called out: "Good luck, Mr. President. . . . This is our America!"

Leaning on a nearby wall, Hunter's low-key communications director, Roy Tyler, checked his cell phone and waited on his boss. A long-time Republican and restaurant owner originally from Texas, Tyler met Hunter in 1994 when the congressman frequented his El Cajon eatery, Tyler's Taste of Texas. Both Vietnam veterans, the pair soon became hunting and golfing partners.

Though Tyler has lots of business experience, he's never dealt with the media and admits it's "overwhelming." But he says Hunter is always optimistic about any task, wryly remembering what the congressman told him when he offered him the job: "It probably won't take up too much of your time." Tyler says he worked 15 hours the first day, "and I haven't stopped since."

In the downstairs lobby, Hunter called his wife of 33 years, Lynne. The couple has two sons and four grandchildren. Their oldest son served two tours of duty in Iraq with the U.S. Marines. After chatting for a few minutes, Hunter told his wife: "I miss you too."

On a long ride to lunch, the congressman drove a silver Envoy past empty water parks and miniature golf courses while Tyler composed emails on his laptop in the front seat. The backseat floorboard bore the telltale signs of three days of campaigning on the road: McDonald's wrappers, half-eaten nachos, and empty water bottles.

While checking road signs, Hunter talked about serving on the House Armed Services Committee, which he chaired for four years until Democrats took the House this year. An ardent supporter of the president's plan to send more troops to Iraq, Hunter has helped bolster military pay, size, and firepower during his tenure on the committee.

The congressman is also strongly pro-life: He voted against federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research and recently proposed legislation that acknowledges the personhood of an unborn child.

Hunter says his pro-life convictions grow out of his religious convictions. A Southern Baptist, Hunter says faith and government are intertwined: "Americans get their laws from principles, and they get their principles from God. . . . When those two coincide that's the best form of government you can have."

Last year, Hunter helped save the 43-foot cross atop the Mt. Soledad war monument in San Diego by introducing legislation in the House that enabled the city to transfer the ground directly under the cross to the ownership of the federal government, avoiding the ACLU's legal challenges to the city.

But while Hunter is socially conservative, not all his policies gel with the GOP. He vigorously opposes current free trade agreements, saying they are not fair to the United States and siphon away jobs from Americans. He voted against NAFTA and similar agreements. "I'm not against trade," he said. "I'm just for smart trade."

When asked about compassionate conservatism and the government's role in helping the poor, Hunter said the government should help people help themselves, and he circled back to his fair trade ideas: Fairer trade means more jobs for people in need.

Hunter says he isn't worried about something he'll need for his presidential campaign: lots of money. Some election watchers estimate candidates will need at least $100 million by the end of the year to compete in the primaries. Hunter, who raised about $1 million in the last election cycle, says he doesn't think he needs that much: "I don't need image consultants and I don't need pollsters telling me what my positions should be. . . . I know what I stand for."

Hunter dismisses criticism leveled by his Democratic opponent in the last election about contributions he received in the past from Brent Wilkes, a contractor connected to former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.). Cunningham, a long-time friend to Hunter, is now serving an eight-year prison sentence for accepting more than $2 million in bribes. Hunter says he returned all the money Wilkes contributed over the past 20 years, adding that Cunningham's fall was "one of the great tragedies I've seen in my life."

The congressman says he has thought about running for the presidency for a long time, and that he's in the race to win. But whatever the outcome, he says: "I'm in the process of advancing ideas. . . . I think that's what all the candidates are doing."

After a seafood lunch near the shore, Hunter and Tyler planned to squeeze in nine holes of golf, courtesy of a Democratic state senator who owns a local country club. Despite their packed schedule, Hunter was optimistic: "There's plenty of time."

Copyright © 2007 WORLD Magazine
February 10, 2007, Vol. 22, No. 5



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christian; duncanhunter; elections; hunter; hunterorstayhome; illegalimmigration; onlyherunagainstdc; onlyhope; president; prolife; republican; unknown; who; willgiveushillary; willwin
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To: First_Salute

i know for the media ect hes gotta "clean up" a little, but i kindve like his look just the way it is. he doesnt look like a stuffed suit.
it kinda fits his no nonsense attitude:)


21 posted on 02/01/2007 10:05:03 PM PST by OMalley (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: GulfBreeze

Go Hunter!


22 posted on 02/01/2007 10:06:03 PM PST by slylentlybold
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To: upsdriver

I remember thinking "way-back-when" that I had somehow become more conservative than my old man in talking about how we should have "free trade" and global competition, etc.

He sat me down and explained how having China government industries using basically slave labor to produce materials and goods to compete with ours is not "free trade" or true market competition.

On the other hand, having to pay a bunch of money to non-working union employees sure tends to make one look elsewhere for hired help - or for less expensive goods.




23 posted on 02/01/2007 10:07:30 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: OMalley

No, we need to stand and fight for conservative principles! As to the John Edwards girl, my first time voting was for George McGovern!! boo hiss

There is hope for us all!


24 posted on 02/01/2007 10:07:44 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: GulfBreeze; bradthebuilder; Mrs. Don-o; Knitting A Conundrum; do the dhue; Hydroshock; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic Ping List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

25 posted on 02/01/2007 10:09:26 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Plutarch

Here ya go! I almost missed it myself.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776934/posts

I just love the part about the card table!


26 posted on 02/01/2007 10:09:39 PM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Plutarch
I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


27 posted on 02/01/2007 10:10:05 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: upsdriver

i sorry i shouldve added a sarcasm tag;)

It seems to me, from visits to the "rudy" threads that this is just what they are advocating.

that to win we have to become more "moderate".

infact there are several posts where they want to totally rid themselves of "purists" (the socially conservative) "the religious right" etc.

They think with the middle they can just discount the rest of the base and still win. AS IF! LOL


28 posted on 02/01/2007 10:13:35 PM PST by OMalley (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: geopyg

And also our own government regulates much of our business out of the country. Although I am a union member (Teamsters), I have serious problems with the union mentality. It's pure socialism.


29 posted on 02/01/2007 10:15:33 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: OMalley

"i sorry i shouldve added a sarcasm tag"

I wasn't sure what you were getting at.

"that to win we have to become more "moderate". "

Yes with that logic, we would have Harriet Meiers instead of Roberts and Alito on the supreme court.

"infact there are several posts where they want to totally rid themselves of "purists" (the socially conservative) "the religious right" etc. "

They are right there, because if they were to succeed nominating Rudy, they would definitely lose me.


30 posted on 02/01/2007 10:22:21 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: GulfBreeze
Almost every one of these links to a mainstream article on Duncan Hunter.

Not really. I clicked on eight links, and had two major mainstream media articles (Wash Post and Boston Globe). The rest were Sign on SanDiego, KFB (San Diego local news), NewsMax, Hunter's web site, and a FR vanity.

At Hunter's own web site, below are the News pieces he lists for the last week (sorry about the large headlines font, that is how it turned out when I copied and pasted the code for some reason). These are mainly from minor news organizations.

The $1,000,000 figure is from his Congressional war chest. You do not know how much he has raised as a Presidential candidate. If it were an impressive figure, we would have heard about it.

You're right to say there are no polls to show off, unless you can make 0, - or * sound like progress.

So, there is no evidence that Hunter is anything other than a forlorn hope. You certainly haven't provided any, and neither have any of the other Hunter acolytes when I've asked for evidence in other posts (but they have had the energy to attack me personally for having the temerity asking such questions).

Political analyst says Hunter can move into GOP top tier

January 31, 2007
A political analyst and former Democrat insider says even though California Congressman Duncan Hunter is considered a long-shot for the White House, he could move into the top tier of GOP hopefuls as the presidential race progresses.more

Hunter supports Bush plan for adding troops

January 31, 2007
"This 'surge' is really just reinforcements, and many of the units have already crossed into Iraq from Kuwait," the recently announced presidential candidate said following a New Hampshire campaign kick-off event at Wilcox Industries in Newington Monday. "I will oppose any attempt to cut off these reinforcements or cut the funding for them."more

Tremoglie: An Interview With Congressman Duncan Hunter

January 26, 2007
Hunter is already being labeled "far right." Presumably by those who think Hugo Chavez is a moderate South American political leader. However, the best thing is for people to decide for themselves.more

Hunter continues South Carolina presidential campaign swing

January 26, 2007
"Peace through strength became our charge. I firmly believe that it will take continued, unwavering dedication to that same calling to achieve victory against the evil terrorist threat we now confront."more

Hunter makes it official: He's a candidate

January 25, 2007
He said border security has now become a national security as well as an immigration issue and urged swifter action, saying, “Let's do it. “We have just one message:. . . When you want to come to the United States, come knock on the front door, because the fence is gonna be up and the back door is gonna be closed.”more

31 posted on 02/01/2007 10:25:00 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: upsdriver

"regulates much of our business out of the country"

How true.


32 posted on 02/01/2007 10:26:58 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: ishabibble
Here ya go! I almost missed it myself.

Probably a lot of other people missed it as well, as it appears to be only a post on the web site, not published in the lastest USN&WR Jan 29 issue .

33 posted on 02/01/2007 10:34:16 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

First, you really don't have tenacity, you have a certain snarky rudeness of speaking down to others that begs personal attacks in response. I will try to refrain.

Second, what you are missing is that the articles you are refering to as not mainstream are syndicate shared and appear in dozens if not hundreds of other mid, small and even major market publications.

RE: money, So I assume you are expecting Senator hillary Clinton to drop out for lack of funds anytime now?

Third on polls. You are snarky and rude(bears repeating) and there is no reason to lack the gravitas of just acknowledging the fact that you were given a point in a debate.



Notice, you haven't ben personally attacked but your bad form has been humiliatingly pointed out.


34 posted on 02/01/2007 10:37:54 PM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: Plutarch

BTW, Do you propose another candidate or do you just get off challenging better men about better men?


35 posted on 02/01/2007 10:41:01 PM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: narses
Thanks for the anti-Giuliani spam. That Giuliani is a low down gun-grabbing, gay-marriage supporting, amnesty-providing, partial birth abortion supporting RINO is incontestable. However, detestable RINOdom on Giuliani's part does not constitute evidence of electoral viability on Hunter's part.
36 posted on 02/01/2007 10:41:39 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: GulfBreeze
BTW, Do you propose another candidate or do you just get off challenging better men about better men?

I support Romney. So go ahead, tear into Romney. I'll take pointers in how this is done without being the least bit snarky and rude. ;-)

37 posted on 02/01/2007 10:50:25 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
There really is no need for me to tear down Mitt Romney for two reasons.

1) I am prepared to support the eventual GOP nominee whomever that may be.
2) There is not a chance in Heaven, Hell or a multitude of little earths that Mitt will be the nominee.


Mitt has already peaked and he is on his way down in the polls. He has struggled valiantly to stake out a right wing agenda but it is too little and too late and thus no matter how sincere the effort seems, he comes across ultimately as insincere (or maybe indifferent in an odd way.)

I find it odd that you answered my call for supporters of top tier candidates to simply recognize that at the least Duncan Hunter has generated a tremendous amount of press for one is ostensibly (according to the polls) only going to ever gather the support of 1% or less of the GOP voting populace. I find it odd because Mitt is not in that group. He never really was...

That group belongs to Giuliani, McCain and Gingrich(though not running... sort of)

Anyway, if Mitt wins (he won't) I'll back him all the way and be the first one to want an autographed picture of him and the first women (just joking on the last word!!). So other than a little back at youisms, I don't really want to spew too much. I think the bigger the movement gets without killing itself the better and the least offense between camps and individuals thereof, the easier it will be to meld them into one once the nominee is picked.
38 posted on 02/01/2007 11:00:52 PM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: GulfBreeze

Duncan has my vote unless Newt gets in.


39 posted on 02/01/2007 11:50:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: GulfBreeze

Just a thought:

I went to the "Duncan Hunter for President 2008" website.

The webmaster needs to get a front face shot of Mr. Hunter.
He looks open and honest, so that would be best.

The webmaster needs to removed the finger pointing photo ASAP.
The finger pointer is BJ Clinton's signature photo shot.


40 posted on 02/02/2007 12:10:30 AM PST by Cindy
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