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NFL Prevents Church from having a Superbowl Party!
Fall Creek Baptist Church Website ^

Posted on 02/01/2007 7:38:48 AM PST by pctech

Fall Creek Baptist Church Family...

We regret to inform you that we have had to cancel our bash to view the Colts game this Sunday in a family friendly environment due to the fact that the NFL believes we would be in violation of the Copyright Act, because we had planned to show the game on a screen bigger than a 55 inch diagonal. We have appealed to their legal counsel and exhausted all options without success. We have been informed that the only exceptions to view the game are given to sports bars and restaurants. While we have argued that we only intend to provide a family oriented environment that will make no profit from the showing, the NFL claims that our event cannot proceed by law. Therefore, we have no choice but to challenge this in court or cancel the event. We choose to cancel the event. We deeply regret that we have been prohibited by the NFL from providing a family friendly environment for celebrating the Colts great season.

Pastor John


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: stupidbull; stuporbowel; superbowl
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To: Tall_Texan
Would a Klan rally include testimonials from Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy? LOL

At least I know someone read that part of my post. It's a hard question. If you want Churches to have free rein to abuse others' intellectual property for a good cause, you have to be prepared to allow all other groups to do the same.

121 posted on 02/01/2007 11:00:08 AM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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To: pctech

if they called it anything other than a Super Bowl, party, and called it like the do at the local radio station in D.C. they call it Elliots Big A@@ bowl party or something to that effect.


122 posted on 02/01/2007 11:03:59 AM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: pctech

Several reasons that I do not watch NFL footbal any longer.

Executive Summary: The NFL has turned on its fans and is trying to milk them for every dollar.

Detail:
1. Seat licenses are ridiculously expensive, runnning to as much as 30,000.
2. After the the seat license is purchased, youthen have to buy season tickets which are ridiculously overpriced.
3. When coming into a new town, the NFL arranges with local banks to fund seat reast licenses through the use of home equity loans. Ridiculous.
4. The NFl is too restrictive on the use of Superbowl and other surrounding copyrights.
5. The Big One> Haviing been involved in a small way in TV, nothing goes on the air that is not scripted, including ad libs. Janet Jackson's breast shot was most likely written and rehearsed before air time. The claim that it was a wardrobe malfuntion is absurd.


123 posted on 02/01/2007 11:04:15 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: SoothingDave

Fair enough, but I do have a problem when the NFL gives the pastor the reason that the screen is too big, and then gives the Indianapolis media a different excuse. It makes me wonder what the leagues excuse will be tomorrow.


124 posted on 02/01/2007 11:06:43 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: neodad
More than a handful.


125 posted on 02/01/2007 11:26:50 AM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: SoothingDave
Would FReepers be so much in support if the benefactor of the party was Planned Parenthood?

I would. I'd back the baby butchers all the way, against anyone who'd try to dictate where, how & with whom they could view broadcast TV signals.

126 posted on 02/01/2007 12:06:12 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Sloth

Do you feel you have the right to record and sell copies of a broadcast television program?


127 posted on 02/01/2007 12:10:24 PM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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To: TexanToTheCore

Remember the NFL doesn't claim anything about Janet Jackson incident being anything other than it being MTV's f$%^up. As such they've banned MTV from ever having anything to do with any NFL production again, and to restore goodwill when the NFL contracts came up for renewal Viacom released CBS off on their own so it no longer has even the slightest relationship to MTV. I agree it wasn't an accident, but the people who planned it apparently not only did a good job of keeping the NFL in the dark but also the guys in the CBS production booth (thus the apparently "oh sh!t" cutaway to a blimp shot before the song was fully over).


128 posted on 02/01/2007 12:42:39 PM PST by discostu (Feed her some hungry reggae, she'll love you twice)
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To: pabianice
NFL = GREED

Sure. Like any other corporation.
129 posted on 02/01/2007 12:44:59 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: HEY4QDEMS
True, but there is also a difference between a nonprofit church community using the Super Bowl as a fund raiser, than a business doing the same for commercial profit.

No, actually there isn't. Unless you are saying that any non-profit group should be able to flaunt the rules. Would you defend the people's right to charge to watch the Superbowl if it were for a fund raiser for the non-profit groups Planned Parenthood or a Muslim mosque or The Center for Liberal-Democratic Studies instead of a church?
130 posted on 02/01/2007 12:50:19 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: pctech

Bump for later reading


131 posted on 02/01/2007 1:00:59 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: VRWCmember
Personally, I would have told the NFL that I disagreed with their interpretation and that if they wanted the bad publicity of trying to sue a church over it, they were welcome to try.

***********

Not bad. Not bad at all.

132 posted on 02/01/2007 1:02:46 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Stone Mountain

It's a moot point, the church changed the admission charge to free and still no dice.

Here is the chronology of excuses by the NFL

You can't do this cuz your screen is to big.
(Paster indicated that he will try to come up with a different solution)

NFL changes it's excuse to 'You can't do this cuz you're charging admission.
(Paster changes policy and informs league that their will be no fee charged)

NFL Changes it's excuse to 'You are going to show a christian message from Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy while at the same time using the words "Super Bowl" to advertise your event and you can't do that'.

It's quite apparent that no matter what he proposes to do, the NFL will simply come up with another excuse to shit on his plans.


133 posted on 02/01/2007 1:08:30 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I guess I don't see this as a big deal. The NFL has a right to control it's product. I don't see that a church should be granted any exemptions.

On another level, I don't see a good reason for a church to want to show the Super Bowl anyway. Aren't a lot of the commericials completely inappropriate for a church setting? Surely the church wouldn't propose showing the game but censoring the commercials, right? Which means that they'll be exposing the children of their congregation to commercials that parents could just shut off at home.

134 posted on 02/01/2007 1:13:15 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: HEY4QDEMS
It's quite apparent that no matter what he proposes to do, the NFL will simply come up with another excuse to shit on his plans.

Wy do you think the NFL is doing this? Because they hate the pastor? Because they hate Christianity? Or because they believe they have legitimate business interests that will be compromised if they make an exception in this case? I know what I believe is the most plausible explanation...
135 posted on 02/01/2007 1:15:20 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: discostu

" I agree it wasn't an accident, but the people who planned it apparently not only did a good job of keeping the NFL in the dark but also the guys in the CBS production booth"

I doubt it. Too much money at stake.


136 posted on 02/01/2007 1:16:55 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Several yars ago, the NFL was broadcasting the SB to churches without problems. Is it possible that there will another x rated event at halftime and they have elected to close out churches because of the potential fall out?


137 posted on 02/01/2007 1:19:23 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: TexanToTheCore

And apparently lost. As a result of that Viacom lost CBS and the potential to ever be involved with the NFL again.


138 posted on 02/01/2007 1:42:34 PM PST by discostu (Feed her some hungry reggae, she'll love you twice)
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To: Stone Mountain

I don't have any belief as to why the NFL is doing it.


139 posted on 02/01/2007 1:46:15 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I don't have any belief as to why the NFL is doing it.

Really? It might be illuminating to consider the NFL's motives instead of just complaining about the decisions they make.
140 posted on 02/01/2007 1:48:12 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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