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To: PhiKapMom

How about coming up with a solution that does not include running a blue state liberal as the presidential nominee of a conservative party? If the man cannot even agree with our most basic platform positions, why run him? Sorry, I like Rudy for his 911 and pro America actions, but I cannot get enthused about supporting a presidential hopeful whose positions on family values and basic constitutional freedoms (RKBA) are identical to Hillary Clinton's and the godless evil Democrat Party.


64 posted on 01/31/2007 7:06:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Rudy upheld N.Y. State gun laws; he didn't just go make stuff up.

You can legally own guns in N.Y.C.! Rudy went after the thugs and gang bangers who have and sell ILLEGAL guns; guns used in criminal acts, guns with their serial numbers effaced, dealers who sold guns illegally.

Can you come up with someone who is the second coming of Reagan? Is someone like that out there? Is anyone outside of the top tier of the GOP field even likely to get the nomination?

Rudy might not make you all that enthusiastic, right now, so WHO does?

82 posted on 01/31/2007 7:24:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson

If I could convince Dr. Coburn to run I would in a heartbeat. He won't consider it and neither will Senator Inhofe! From what I hear they have been asked a number of times from all of us! You get the standard, we are flattered but... Gov Keating decided not to run. Former Cong Watts has too much baggage. I like Gov Rick Perry but people don't want another Texan. We have a lot of dull Republicans in Congress IMO except the two firebrands from OK and a few others.

BTW, Senator Coburn is speaking at the luncheon for the OK State Committee on Saturday. I cannot wait to hear him speak about the Iraqi War.

Our Conservative problem is that we didn't groom anyone for 2008 that has the WOW factor of leadership, charisma, and speaking ability plus is conservative on all the issues. We have a Conservative leadership void IMHO.

Have heard most of these people running speak in person and people on the fence are not going to vote for most of them. I can remember when Brownback spoke, I tuned out about 10 minutes into what he was saying. Gov Huckabee is nice but couldn't get a lot of people to turn out when he came to OK during the election. Only Republican speaker that had Republicans talking here in OK other than Rudy was George Allen, my first choice, and he lost. I also love Jeb but after the last couple of years that is not going to happen.

I live in a college town and Rudy is the buzz around here but like I said earlier Rudy was there for OKC Bombing so he is very well liked and respected here. The Lloyd Noble Center on OU during the winter Convocation the other year was alive when Rudy spoke. Never have seen that reaction to a speaker at OU.

Cannot come up with one name that I think can beat Hillary that supports our troops 100% and the War in Iraq and did not write the CFR bill which I detest. IMHO, we have a bunch of spineless Republicans right now that pay more attention to polls then what is the right thing to do. Some I thought would be good when first elected like Graham turned out to be a dud! I am open to suggestions.


97 posted on 01/31/2007 7:33:19 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Jim Robinson; Spiff

Seems like the left is pushing Giuliani, so they get Clinton either way. I think he would be great on terrorism and managing the government.

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

Spiff posted at #15 on this earlier thread, a great table showing his stance on issues and comparing it to the Dems, Clinton and Gop:



Rudy's Star Power (Rudy's like Tancredo on immigration!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776365/posts


124 posted on 01/31/2007 7:49:31 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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