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I didn't think they would elect Bill Clinton the first time in 1992 and definitely didn't think they would re-elect him in 1996 until the GOP nominated Dole. Then I didn't think that Kerry would get so many votes either or Gore.

Their fraud machine has been at it for years and that is what concerns me the most. We have to have a candidate that can get so many more votes that fraud won't hurt us.

I don't trust the American public because the MSM has dumbed it down in a lot of cases. I would have bet that George Allen would not have been defeated by Webb who Nancy Reagan told to stop using President Reagan's name. I never gave it a thought he would lose.

We have a Dem who won reelection to State Auditor and he is before a Grand Jury pending indictment and people knew it when they voted for him.

I have little faith in the American Indy voters who we have to have as Ms. Clinton is reinvented and gets the nomination via caucus if they have to since that is what they did for Gore. I don't think we have a lot of candidates with enough spine to stand up to her and the media will be her lapdog if she gets the nomination. In a debate, the questions will favor her and it will take a strong Republican to stand up and get the message across. I remember in 1984 when Pres Reagan did poorly in the first debate and the media was writing him off but in the last debate he scored a knockout. We are going to need a knockout every time IMHO.

For the most part, I think a lot of women are dumb voters no offense to Freeper women but some of the things I have heard women voters say at high school sporting events makes me cringe on why they support a candidate makes me wonder. Band parent women are worse.

I think you are misunderestimating what a motivated red state grassroots electorate can accomplish against Hillary. But they have to be motivated.

Bush violated his conservative principles and the result was he could not motivate his base in '92. Bob Dole could not motivate the conservative base in '96. GWB just barely gained enough support against Gore in 2000 and it took a considerable grassroots effort to finally get him seated.

Without the motivated grassroots in '04, Kerry would probably be president today.

And due to a perceived lack of conservative principles in the Republican Party in '06, our side was not motivated and now we're stuck in our current situation.

You've got to give the people something to get the juices flowing. Sorry, Rudy's a great guy and he'll get half of our side going, or maybe even three quarters, but it's going to take an all out effort.

Why hobble our side with a candidate who is sorely lacking on basic conservative issues? He's not going to motivate the conservative right. Don't repeat the mistakes noted above. Violating the most basic conservative principles is a sure way to lose the election.

I stated that almost any decent, honest conservative Republican should win against Hillary, but he must be able to motivate his base to do it. Sadly, the social liberal Rudy Giuliani may be the one Republican of the top half dozen or so front runners who might fail to motivate the grassroots and therefore may actually cause a repeat of '92 and we say hello again to a President Clinton.

Do not repeat the now obvious mistakes made in '92, '96 and '06 and barely avoided in '00 and '04. Be sure the candidate we choose actually walks and talks the conservative platform!

Motivate the base. Win elections!