[Cold Heat]

Well............. Personally, I thought he did a damn good job with the Winter Olympics. In fact, he has been successful in life. He has always stood out as a leader. This is what probably impressed me the most.

add to this, his apparent lack of negatives such as messy divorces, public temper tantrums and the like, he sails high above the other frontrunner's like Mccain and Guliani. He was elected Governor of a heavily populated liberal state which is another big plus, because he will appeal nationally to crossover voters which is absolutely required to win a presidential election. Hunter can't do that.

I guess it depends on how you view the world of politics. I like to win. I know a party without power can do nothing but bitch.

Do you want to win, or do you want to be a bitch and have the roll of the loyal opposition.

It depends on how bad you want it, and what you want.

I want to win.....There is no other substitute.

[Antoninus]

I want to win.....There is no other substitute.

That's the problem. The GOP winning with a liberal as the standard bearer is actually worse than a loss.

I've got up-close-and-personal experiences with such Phyrric victories. We had them in PA and NJ in the 1990s. And as a result, the GOP may never win another state-wide race in my lifetime, so shot-through with liberals is the Republican state apparatus in both states.

If you want to duplicate that on a national level, be my guest. But I won't help you do it. It's like helping someone you know commit suicide.