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Col. Austin Bay on the Republicans waffling on support for the war.
The Hugh Hewitt show ^ | 1/30/07 | Austin Bay / Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 01/31/2007 8:39:29 AM PST by Valin

HH: Got another Texan now, Col. Austin Bay of www.austinbay.net/blog, actually knows that, “Hell, Hoss, we’re at war.” Austin, welcome back. Always a pleasure.

AB: Thanks, Hugh. Glad to be there.

HH: Let’s remind people where they can get your latest, Embrace the Suck, a pamphlet. Where’s the website where they can grab that?

AB: www.pamphletguys.com. I edited and put it together, Adam Bellow of Pamphletguys.com is the publisher. I encourage everybody to go take a look at it. I saw that the Los Angeles Times ran an op-ed of mine, but most of the op-ed was comprised of terms and definitions from Embrace The Suck. So they ran that, I think, on Sunday.

HH: Excellent. Now I think Embrace the Suck is important, but not nearly as important as getting informed opinion about what benchmark resolutions do. Now Col. Bay, remind people how much time you spent in Iraq.

AB: Well, in Iraq, I was brought back on active duty from the retired reserves for six months, ended up serving seven months, and about, a little over four months of them in Iraq at Camp Victory outside of Baghdad. I was working on both security, trying to combine the security operations with our economic development lines of operation as well.

HH: And so, given what the context is right now, what do you make of Senate and House resolutions offered by Republicans? I know you would hate Biden, but what about House and Senate Republicans offering demands for benchmarks?

AB: Hugh, may I shape the question a little bit better?

HH: You’ve got eight minutes.

AB: Here’s the way I’d look at it, and I guess I should have added, I’ll combine I have 32 years in the service as a reservist, primarily, but also on active duty. I mean, I made active duty in the 1970’s, three years in Germany, served in the Persian Gulf War, Iraq, and also various relief operations in Central America. Now let me tell you what this kind of signaling does to our very aggressive enemies. All it does is encourage them, because they sit there and they say the nation of couch potatoes, those spineless paper tigers…remember that name that we used to be called? They’re paper tigers, they are going to fold. All we have to do is just continue to hold out, because the only thing we’ve got are first of all, are murderous tendencies, and our divinely inspired will. And of course, they really are, our enemies are brittle enemies. The only thing…brittle and brutal enemies. The only thing that empowers them are their media driven faith that we’re going to fold.

HH: And so, Col. Bay, what do you want these politicians to understand about what they do?

AB: I’ll tell you what. Let me pick out a politician that I still admire, Hugh, and that happens to be Joe Lieberman. Joe Lieberman understands that the biggest issue of our time, and I will say our time for the next three or four decades, is confronting…I’ll call it what it is, Islamo-fascist inspired terrorism. And part of that is creating the opportunity, creating alternatives…Heaven forbid, Hugh, here’s a Heavenly laden word, creating choice in the Middle East where there has been only a choice between tyrants and terrorists, who really are the same side of a coin. Senator Lieberman has shown that he understands that, and he’s willing to stand up and fight that war. We’re all going to fight it. The question is do we fight it on our terms, and fight it there, or do we fight it on their terms, and fight it on the battlefields of their choice?

HH: Now Col. Bay, do you believe that elected representatives, especially I’m talking to Republicans right now…

AB: Yes, yes, yes.

HH: …have a grip of how the enemy understands how the war is going, and how their words impact the enemy, and not just American political audiences?

AB: Hugh, I’m afraid that our political class is more concerned about their political clout, their personal political clout, than they are about defending the United States, and extending freedom. And I will tell you defending America and extending freedom in the kind of strategic situation we live in, technological compression it’s called, we can get anywhere on this planet within about 18 hours by jet, we share all the same diseases, we share all the same information, we share all the same weapons, with that kind of strategic reality, you’ve got to firmly stand to extend freedom, and I’ll tell you, you’re not going to defend America the way it needs to be defended in the 21st Century by withdrawing.

HH: Now you pivot…a lot of people touch you from the civilian world, and a lot of people talk to you from the military world. Is the opinion about Congress’ competence on this war widely shared, your opinion, widely shared within the uniformed services, both active duty and recently retired?

AB: Hugh, I can’t answer that. I can really only speak for myself. And let’s talk about the Republicans. I think there are a lot of Republicans in shock at their losses in November of 2006, and they’re scrambling, unfortunately, to look at reelection, instead of honest reevaluation of what they should stand for, and what they should advocate. But I’ll tell you what, you’re always going to come down well in the long run if you stand for extending freedom on this planet.

HH: Let me ask you as well about your reaction to confirming General Petraeus, who authored the new plan, who testified on its behalf, and asked for the assets to carry it out, confirming him on one day, and then criticizing the plan on the next. Does that make any sense to you?

AB: No, it doesn’t. It only makes sense if you think you can get away with it in a media that is not balanced. If I were running a front page, I would have had…here’s what Petraeus said yesterday, and those you said they’re supporting him, and here’s what they say today. A political game is being played, which is politicians want to have it both ways. Heavens, if this works out in Iraq, suddenly, everyone wants to be the father of victory. At the same time, they want to hedge and say if there’s…if we have to end up…because we don’t have to, but if we end up choosing defeat, they want to have verbiage so that they can defend themselves the next time they’re on the Hustings.

HH: Austin Bay, always a great pleasure, always bracing. www.austinbay.net/blog. You hit the weblog right there.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 117republicans; austinbay; benchmarks; hughhewitt

1 posted on 01/31/2007 8:39:33 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin

Audio here
Cliff May, Austin Bay

Hewitt: Hour 1 - Hugh continues his discussion of what the impact to our enemies would be if we pass resolutions with benchmarks with the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies' Cliff May, and blogger/novelist Austin Bay.

http://www.townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=755ff019-afea-4a23-83b3-abea80f688dd


2 posted on 01/31/2007 8:40:32 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

Congess is determined to create another Vietnam by insisting politicians are more qualfied to prosecute a war than the military. BUT WHY ARE WE, AMERICAN VOTERS, ALLOWING THIS?


3 posted on 01/31/2007 8:52:58 AM PST by cake_crumb (When "bipartisan study groups" prosecute wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
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The NRSC Pledge (A Reminder)
The NRSC Pledge ^ | 1/30/07

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776281/posts
Posted on 01/30/2007 2:34:58 PM CST by The Blitherer


If the United States Senate passes a resolution, non-binding or otherwise, that criticizes the commitment of additional troops to Iraq that General Petraeus has asked for and that the president has pledged, and if the Senate does so after the testimony of General Petraeus on January 23 that such a resolution will be an encouragement to the enemy, I will not contribute to any Republican senator who voted for the resolution. Further, if any Republican senator who votes for such a resolution is a candidate for re-election in 2008, I will not contribute to the National Republican Senatorial Committee unless the Chairman of that Committee, Senator Ensign, commits in writing that none of the funds of the NRSC will go to support the re-election of any senator supporting the non-binding resolution.


4 posted on 01/31/2007 9:00:18 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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Congress is stepping on the COnstitution even with a non-binding resolution. If this idiocy passes, aid and comfort is going to be an understatement. I wish we had more power than that. I wish there was something more we could do then just not donate to their campaigns and vote against them. Like public censure. Get a few million signatures condemning it and accusing them of knowingly aiding the enemy and actively demoralizing our troops. Like saying such activity is teasonous.
5 posted on 01/31/2007 9:24:11 AM PST by cake_crumb (When "bipartisan study groups" prosecute wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
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I don't think I'd call it teasonous..stupid, yes but not teasonous.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 8:22:17 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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