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Vista is 'more secure' says Gates
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 30 January 2007, 15:33 GMT | BBC Staff

Posted on 01/30/2007 1:08:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: wastedyears
"If you enjoy freedom, boycott Windows Vista."

That's my gripe with it. I don't like someone dictating what I can do with my PC. I also dislike it being a resource hog. I don't mind building a powerful box if I'm going to be doing resource intensive work, but having to have such hardware just to run the OS is just crazy.

101 posted on 01/30/2007 7:57:31 PM PST by KoRn
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To: taxed2death
Do a presentation using any of the software available for Linux and compare it to MS Office. You'd look like a fool.

My 1$ solar calculator has never crashed on me either... it doesn't mean that it is superior to MS Office... though you clearly have some type of bias.
102 posted on 01/30/2007 8:12:24 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: Gorzaloon
Who protects us from the "I'll delete any program that did not pay tribute to MS, nor bribes to the RIAA, nor graft to Content Lobbyists".

Who protects us from people willing to make things up to smear Microsoft?

103 posted on 01/30/2007 8:16:26 PM PST by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Moose4

I don't care about the additional eye-candy in the operating system. So-called security protections are also messing up my applications in industrial controls. A colleague who does HMI work for me had to uninstall the automatically installed Internet Explorer 7, since it conflicts with applications that he works with (not home games/graphics/fun stuff - WORK!). One of my platforms I am still running Windows2000 because XP interferes with certain communications protocols. And now this Vista with the so-called security - what is it going to delete? If it was not for the industrial automation (as in programmable logic controllers) software that I use, I am approaching the point of telling Microsoft to go to hell, and go to Macintosh, since OS-X is essentially UNIX. Stable, bulletproof, and still preferred for math intensive real time process modelling. UNIX (X-windows) is still used in oilfield seismic logging.
If anyone here works for Rockwell Automation, and there is anything being considered on versions of RSLogix/Networks/Panelbuilder Plus software running in OS-X, freepmail me. I'm a business partner in a systems integration company.


104 posted on 01/30/2007 8:30:50 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Gorzaloon

Nah, WinME can run very nicely if tweaked right. 3 of our 4 boxes run it and BSODs are something we see a combined total of maybe 2, 3 times a year.

Only times WinME's ever given me real issues, it was always due to a hardware problem that later revealed itself...be it a failing hard drive, or a dying cpu fan causing minor overheating that got progressively worse, or iffy ram. Always worked right after the hardware issue was addressed, too.


105 posted on 01/30/2007 8:41:55 PM PST by Fire_on_High (I am so proud of what we were...)
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To: Porterville

"Robust" I always thought meant crash proof.
Linux is about as crash proof as you can get in an OS

I don't do presentations, just high end CAD (BRL-CAD, Vari-Cad) and 3-D rendering.


106 posted on 01/30/2007 9:09:22 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
I don't do presentations, just high end CAD (BRL-CAD, Vari-Cad) and 3-D rendering.

Exactly. For work, you need Linux. For play, it's OSX. 

107 posted on 01/30/2007 9:42:46 PM PST by zeugma (If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.)
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To: taxed2death

Robust as in Substance. Crash proof different... It is like the difference between an Accura and a BMW. The Accura will run for ever but the BMW feels thick.


108 posted on 01/30/2007 9:43:53 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce; wastedyears; Rudder; goldstategop; Always Right; capt. norm; ...
It appears that 'Vista' has a lot of added new resource-hogging and big-brother 'features' which some people would just as soon avoid. (Note to self: Research current development status and reviews of various Linux distros... soon.)


109 posted on 01/31/2007 1:09:03 AM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: All

Who let loose the Hordes of Mac junkies?

This isn't a thread about Mac.

Some of you Mac's need to move out of Mothers basement already.

/Sheesh


110 posted on 01/31/2007 1:14:41 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Abcdefg
RE: Office is TOO robust for me. They could charge a lot less for a lot less product, please.

I have "Open Office" running on my laptop (and have not yet found a need to load MS Ofc to replace it.) It's free, or at minor cost if you want an installation CD. It seems to do the job for day-to-day tasks (and will read/write in msofc file formats if you need that... don't we all?) For five bucks or so for the CD, it's not a big risk to try... to see if it might do the trick for you.

http://www.openoffice.org/

112 posted on 01/31/2007 1:26:18 AM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: All

Sorry, wrong thread.


113 posted on 01/31/2007 1:26:56 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

114 posted on 01/31/2007 1:40:18 AM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Smiling...yes, I did read it and forgot to go back.


115 posted on 01/31/2007 1:41:55 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Porterville
Do a presentation using any of the software available for Linux and compare it to MS Office. You'd look like a fool.

Heh.

I've given presentations using both KPresenter and OpenOffice.org's Presenter. Unless you desperately need to make your presentation into a cartoon they both are at least as good as PowerPoint.

But if turning your presentation into a cartoon is what you really want, the GIMP works wonderfully. And both KPresenter and OO.o Presenter both support importing EPS files from the GIMP.

Now if you are serious about building a quality presentation...

MagicPoint rocks.

People who don't know anything about Linux software should refrain from commenting on it.

116 posted on 01/31/2007 2:12:18 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: MediaMole
Who protects us from people willing to make things up to smear Microsoft?

Who needs to make things up? Microsoft has done more than enough stupid and unethical things to warrant the abuse that gets heaped on them.

117 posted on 01/31/2007 2:15:13 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Knitebane
For magicpoint, someone who hasn't used it might also want to look at these two pages:

The current homepage of magicpoint (also includes some sample presentations here and here)

An older but informative article

118 posted on 01/31/2007 2:26:15 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander
Whoopsie.

My link was from my bookmark for MagicPoint tricks which unfortunately has a bad link for the MagicPoint main site.

Another option is to simply use LaTeX and use the beamer class to output to pdf or dvi.

119 posted on 01/31/2007 2:56:01 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


120 posted on 01/31/2007 2:57:18 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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