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1 posted on 01/30/2007 11:33:40 AM PST by RayStacy
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You're going to inflame the riff-raff again.


2 posted on 01/30/2007 11:35:18 AM PST by dljordan
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BUMP!


3 posted on 01/30/2007 11:35:39 AM PST by Constitution Day (.)
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4 posted on 01/30/2007 11:38:25 AM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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I THINK, HOWEVER, THAT THERE IS another, deeper reason why Lee makes modern America uncomfortable. It is his Christianity
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Nope. Not buying that for a minute.


5 posted on 01/30/2007 11:40:10 AM PST by dmz
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7 posted on 01/30/2007 11:48:12 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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It is not surpising that our current generations of politically corrected people don't know about Robert E Lee. The revisionist educators have painted him as a racist, and slammed the door of knowledge tightly shut.


8 posted on 01/30/2007 11:50:28 AM PST by ghostrider
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How many of you noticed, or celebrated yourselves, Lee's birthday on 19 January (or Stonewall Jackson's on 21 January)?

I'm saving my energy for the big one. William T. Sherman's birthday is on February 8th.

12 posted on 01/30/2007 11:54:23 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Had any of that original colonies known that they would not be allowed to leave this Union, and made to stay by force, there would never have been a country. Unknown by the majority of our public school attendees, many in the South looked at that war as the Second American Revolution.


15 posted on 01/30/2007 11:55:29 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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Lee was a wonderful man. He always was a dedicated man of valor. His service for the USA in the Mexican War was spectacular. I remember reading as a child of Lee hiding behind enemy lines while Mexican officers discussed battle plans, plans which Lee overheard and later reported to his superiors. Lee similarly served the Confederacy with unusual distinction, honor and valor. We need more men like Robert E. Lee.
20 posted on 01/30/2007 11:58:56 AM PST by MBB1984
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Very interesting. Thanks.


31 posted on 01/30/2007 12:08:04 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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There are MANY "fine" American heroes equal to the celebrated Lee- and some above him, like Ronald Reagan. But all in all I agree with the article (I AM a historian).

The revisionists don't just stop with re-painting men like Lee, they are also quite busy trying to "taliban" memorials. Right now, they are trying to gin up interest in destroying the memorial at Stone Mountain. This just might be the beginning of "Civil War II"...


34 posted on 01/30/2007 12:12:41 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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American Spectator often has interesting and well-written articles.
35 posted on 01/30/2007 12:13:29 PM PST by Dante3
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Having been born and raised in the north (of England), I don't really have a dog in this fight (as we say here in my adopted homeland of Texas).

Nevertheless, I will throw a little petrol on the fire: If this happened today, there would be no question whatever of the Southern states' right to secede. It would be called "self-determination," an idea whose validity has been enshrined in global politics since the end of the First World War and Wilson's fourteen points.
Oddly enough, Woodrow Wilson was a Virginian and old enough (b. 1856) to have childhood memories of the Civil War period.


37 posted on 01/30/2007 12:13:58 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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I recently finished reading Crocker's book, "Robert E. Lee on Leadership", and Crocker's article just posted conforms with the basic premise of his book. Lee was an effective leader precisely because he had a servant mentality which he drew from his religious tradition.

Lee's final years as the President of Washington College in Virginia, provide a very moving account of a man trying to make one final contribution to his society by molding the next generation of leaders.

39 posted on 01/30/2007 12:14:41 PM PST by Ciexyz (In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:16)
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Bama ping


42 posted on 01/30/2007 12:20:42 PM PST by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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How many of you noticed, or celebrated yourselves, Lee's birthday on 19 January (or Stonewall Jackson's on 21 January)?

Well, since I knew I was going to be busy on the 19th and the 21st, I celebrated both on the 15th of January.

I even took a monday holiday for it.

43 posted on 01/30/2007 12:21:38 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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General Robert E. Lee, leader of the Confederate army, won the respect of North and South alike. In fact General Lee was loved and admired the world over. Sir Garnet Joseph Woseley from England, who met Lee on several occasions wrote: "I never felt my own individual insignificance more keenly then I did in his presence. I have met many of the great men of my time, but Lee alone impressed me with the feeling that I was in the presence of a man who was cast in a grander mold, and made of a different and finer metal than all other men.'' General Lee was the very embodiment of all that was good in the Confederate States of America, and to this very day is loved and admired by any one that has a knowledge of history...

45 posted on 01/30/2007 12:27:12 PM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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The War was indeed over the issue of states rights...the right of the states to continue slavery inspite of the federal government. The Civil War resolved the slavery issue that had not been resolved when the US Constitution was written, and had been a problem ever since.

That Lee believed that the Confederacy had only exercised its rights as guaranteed under the Constitution, defended by the founders, and invoked by states and statesmen "for the last seventy years," can be seen in his letter of 15 December 1866 to Lord Acton, in which he says precisely that. He wishes that "the judgment of reason" had not "been displaced by the arbitrament of war," but concludes it has been, and it is time for the South to move on, to accept "without reserve... the extinction of slavery.... [A]n event that has been long sought, though in a different way, and by none... more earnestly desired than by citizens of Virginia," and to "trust that the constitution may undergo no [further] change, but that it may be handed down to our succeeding generations in the form we received it from our forefathers."

As they were seeking English help, it was wise to speak so. The English weren't about to help the secessionist promote slavery.

It is too easy for Lee to side step the slavery issue by saying he was falling in with his family and friends on state's rights to practice slavery.

51 posted on 01/30/2007 12:42:16 PM PST by TheDon (Are you a cut and run conservative?)
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President Eisenhower had four portraits displayed in his White House office, one being Robert E Lee.


56 posted on 01/30/2007 1:01:39 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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61 posted on 01/30/2007 1:19:21 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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