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Robert E. Lee: Icon of the South -- and American Hero
American Spectator ^ | 1/30/07 | HW Crocker III

Posted on 01/30/2007 11:33:39 AM PST by RayStacy

Robert E. Lee: Icon of the South -- and American Hero By H. W. Crocker III Published 1/30/2007 12:08:14 AM

January can be a depressing month. The Christmas decorations come down, the creche is returned to its box (save for those hardliners, like the Crocker family, who leave the nativity set up until 2 February, the Presentation of the Lord), and the tree is dragged unceremoniously from the house. If you've had any time off of work, it ends; the spirit of Christmas can deflate pretty fast, if you're not careful. Even if you are, and you're returning to a desk job, you might start day-dreaming (as I always do) about whether you could, in good conscience, risk the family finances and try your hand at farming or ranching or doing anything that would get you out of an office and away from the corporate crowd.

But we all have to buckle down to our responsibilities, and as we settle down to it, there comes along another anniversary, another date to mark, another birthday to celebrate. In traditional Southern households, four weeks after Christmas, comes the birthday of Robert E. Lee, icon of the South, "one of the noblest Americans who ever lived, and of the greatest captains known to the annals of war" (according to Winston Churchill).

This year marks the 200th anniversary of Lee's birth, and yet so far it seems to have been marked largely by silence. How many of you noticed, or celebrated yourselves, Lee's birthday on 19 January (or Stonewall Jackson's on 21 January)? Lee's birthday is still officially marked in some Southern states, but the great and good general seems to be slipping from America's consciousness, or at least from America's esteem.

Lee, in the mind of some, has become a sectarian hero, when he used to be a national one. Theodore Roosevelt, scion of a Yankee father and a Southern mother, thought Lee was "without any exception the very greatest of all the great captains that the English-speaking peoples have brought forth." On Lee's death in 1870, a Northern paper, the New York Herald, editorialized: "Here in the North... we have long ceased to look upon him as the Confederate leader, but have claimed him as one of ourselves; have cherished and felt proud of his military genius as belonging to us; have recounted and recorded his triumphs as our own; have extolled his virtue as reflecting upon us -- for Robert Edward Lee was an American, and the great nation which gave him birth would be to-day unworthy of such a son if she regarded him lightly. Never had mother a nobler son."

IT IS IRONIC THAT LEE was so respected as a national hero when the wounds of war were still fresh, but now, a century and a half later, he is considered discredited because of the cause for which he fought. Yet his cause, if anything, is another reason to admire him.

If that last statement sounds controversial, consider, without prejudice, the cause for which Lee sacrificed everything -- his life, his family, his career. It was a simple and eloquent one that every humane man should be able to rally round: "With all my devotion to the Union, and the feeling of loyalty and duty as an American citizen, I have not been able to make up my mind to raise my hand against my relatives, my children, my home." In another letter, he wrote, "a Union that can only be maintained by swords and bayonets has no charm for me. If the Union is dissolved and government disrupted, I shall return to my native state and share the miseries of my people, and save in defense will draw my sword on none."

Lee would have endorsed the view of General Richard (son of Zachary) Taylor who said that he and his fellow Southerners had fought not for the preservation of slavery -- regret for slavery's loss, Taylor noted after the war, "has neither been felt nor expressed" -- but rather, they had "striven for that which brought our forefathers to Runnymede, the privilege of exercising some influence in their own government."

That Lee believed that the Confederacy had only exercised its rights as guaranteed under the Constitution, defended by the founders, and invoked by states and statesmen "for the last seventy years," can be seen in his letter of 15 December 1866 to Lord Acton, in which he says precisely that. He wishes that "the judgment of reason" had not "been displaced by the arbitrament of war," but concludes it has been, and it is time for the South to move on, to accept "without reserve... the extinction of slavery.... [A]n event that has been long sought, though in a different way, and by none... more earnestly desired than by citizens of Virginia," and to "trust that the constitution may undergo no [further] change, but that it may be handed down to our succeeding generations in the form we received it from our forefathers."

This does not sound like a man whose politics should bar him from the admiration that used to be his due.

I THINK, HOWEVER, THAT THERE IS another, deeper reason why Lee makes modern America uncomfortable. It is his Christianity -- not the fact the he was a believer, but that he actually knew what it meant to pursue the imitation of Christ. Try reading the Gospel of Matthew and you'll find that it's arresting stuff. And Lee, though gentle in demeanor -- indeed a thoroughgoing gentleman -- could be equally arresting.

When a young mother sought Lee's advice for raising her infant son, Lee replied, "Teach him he must deny himself." Or how about this: "Duty...is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things.... You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less."

Lee always put others first; he believed that to lead is to serve; he believed that the "forbearing use of power does not only form the touchstone, but the manner ... of a true gentleman.... A true gentleman of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others."

Today, Self seems to be the great god of most people. They bow before the presumed truth that happiness lies in self-esteem and "self-actualization" -- a very self-flattering way of affirming that one's "inner self" is always right, and the source of all truth. Self-denial, unless it is in the form of a diet (to make us feel better about ourselves), is not much in vogue.

Well, Lee was the great anti-self-actualizer of American history. As Lee's Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer Douglas Southall Freeman put it: "Had [Lee's] life been epitomized in one sentence of the Book he read so often, it would have been in the words, 'If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.'"

Today, many find that sentence too bracing, and Lee, who embodied it, becomes an affront, a perfect example of Mark Twain's apothegm that "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example."

And it's not just that, of course. Ignorance is part of the problem too. For how many Americans today know the real Robert E. Lee or know anything about him at all, save that he was a general "who fought for slavery."

If we want an America of heroes, we need to cherish our heroes of the past. It is to the advantage of every Southerner, of every American, to renew his acquaintance with Robert E. Lee, because there simply is no finer American hero.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: americangeneral; greatest; lostthewar; robertelee; traitor; youlostgetoverit
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
it's hard to believe that you don't KNOW that grant was a slaveOWNER until he was forced to free his slaves after the war!

actually you do KNOW & CHOOSE to LIE about it.

free dixie,sw

161 posted on 02/11/2007 8:28:54 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Pelham
Winston Churchill was another one who admired Robert E. Lee. He called Lee "one of the noblest Americans who ever lived, and one of the greatest captains known to the annals of war." (The Washington Times, February 10, 2007, page D5).

The article notes that Churchill "wrote admiringly of Lincoln, Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and, surprisingly, McClellan.

162 posted on 02/11/2007 8:31:40 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Non-Sequitur
When relying on Julia Grant's memoirs one has to remember that they were no published until about 70 years after her death. They are open to some question.

Exactly. She may have freed them afterwards.

163 posted on 02/11/2007 9:46:53 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: stand watie
it's hard to believe that you don't KNOW that grant was a slaveOWNER until he was forced to free his slaves after the war!

Well, Grant himself wasn't much of a slave owner. He had a slave for short time but freed him without compulsion well before the war.

His in-laws,however, were slave owners as was his wife by most accounts. (Some argue that Julia's slaves belonged to her father.)

164 posted on 02/11/2007 9:52:55 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Tribune7
inasmuch as u.s.grant had TWO slaves listed by name in his official Army Officer's Property Record (along with his weapons, saddles,tack,bedding,luggage,etc), your opinion is baseLESS. SOME have attempted to DENY that the two men were slaves, saying that they were "servants". since they are LISTED as "PROPERTY", that is LAUGHABLE!!!

fyi, grant was FAR from being the only union officer, who owned slaves and/or had benefited financially from the "flesh trade". benjamin "THE BEAST" butler, for ONE was IN the "trade in human misery" up to his ears. when he was governor of occupied LA, THE BEAST made $$$$$$$$ from the slave auctions in New Orleans.

furthermore, when u. s. grant lived in MO, he was a slave OVERSEER & was said by "his fellows" to be "a good hand with the whip".

those are HISTORICAL FACTS, whether you wish to know the TRUTH or not.

free dixie,sw

165 posted on 02/11/2007 10:09:53 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Pistolshot
"what we call today as "total war" to the south----" ====> in other words, the troops under sherman/sheridan committed MASSIVE numbers of WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY against INNOCENT civilians & CSA prisoners of war, which their "leaders" did NOTHING to stop.

fyi, "suffering troops under his command to commit war crimes" is what we hanged GEN Yamashita after WW2 for allowing.

BOTH sherman & sheridan deserved the same fate.

free dixie,sw

166 posted on 02/11/2007 10:29:09 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
it's hard to believe that you don't KNOW that grant was a slaveOWNER until he was forced to free his slaves after the war!

And just where was he living where it was legal for him to own slaves after the rebellion?

actually you do KNOW & CHOOSE to LIE about it.

If I'm lying then answer the question.

167 posted on 02/11/2007 10:41:38 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Tribune7
Exactly. She may have freed them afterwards.

You haven't been able to answer the one question I've been posing all along. Where did Julia Grant live where it was legal for her to own slaves as late as December 1865?

168 posted on 02/11/2007 10:43:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
at that time, army officers (and often their families, as well!)were NOT under the laws of the states. they were ONLY subject to MILITARY LAW! when you are "u.s. grant" & have just WON a major was "you are a more equal pig" than other "pigs".

you KNOW this and are just TRYING (desperately) to WHITEWASH grant's slave-holding days.

care for a "do over"???? (fyi, you've LOST this fight LONG AGO.)

btw, have you forgotten that "nolu chan" POSTED grant's Army Officer's Property Record on one of these threads???? (i think NOT!)

free dixie,sw

169 posted on 02/11/2007 10:48:15 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: ghostrider

One of my favorite stories about him takes place in a church after the war. A freed slave comes into a church where Lee was attending the service, the former slave went to the front of the church and knelt to say a prayer. Churchgoers were nervous, and unsure of what was going to happen until General Lee got up from his seat and went to the front of the church and knelt beside the man and said a prayer with him.


170 posted on 02/11/2007 10:49:01 AM PST by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: MissEdie
fyi, Lee's HOME congregation (Christ Church in Alexandria, VA) always had members who were "other than white".

to the current rector's knowledge, the congregation was NEVER segregated.

btw, should you visit Alexandria, Lee's pew is marked (on a sterling silver plate), with a facsimile of his signature.

the incident you mention happened at an Anglican church in Richmond.

free dixie,sw

171 posted on 02/11/2007 10:54:28 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
at that time, army officers (and often their families, as well!)were NOT under the laws of the states. they were ONLY subject to MILITARY LAW! when you are "u.s. grant" & have just WON a major was "you are a more equal pig" than other "pigs.

Oh this is getting better and better by the moment! So you're saying that Grant could take his slaves with him to any non-slave state? So much for state's rights. What legislation authorized this? And you said "often their families". Was Mrs. Grant protected by this same law or not? If so, what would have made her un-protected by this?

172 posted on 02/11/2007 10:55:15 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Maybe it doesn't have to "rise again" --- since it's never really been defeated in spirit and character.

Nor was there an official surrender of the CSA. Nor was there a trial for treason by CSA leaders.


173 posted on 02/11/2007 10:55:51 AM PST by varina davis
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To: Non-Sequitur
You haven't been able to answer the one question I've been posing all along.

I did actually. Go back and read my responses.

174 posted on 02/11/2007 10:57:01 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: stand watie
inasmuch as u.s.grant had TWO slaves listed by name in his official Army Officer's Property Record (along with his weapons, saddles,tack,bedding,luggage,etc),

Give a link.

175 posted on 02/11/2007 11:01:43 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: stand watie
People don't seem to understand. Lee may have surrendered the army at Appomattox. But the Government of the Confederacy never actually surrendered. Technically we are still at war. ;)
176 posted on 02/11/2007 11:27:08 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Tribune7
i don't have a link.

furthermore, i wouldn't know whether to believe ANYTHING off "the worldwidewierd" or not. (i am NOT a fan of "looking up data" on the Internet! about 1/2 of what is on the "www" is wrong, simplistic,incomplete, common gossip and/or KNOWINGLY false.)

"nolo chan" posted u.s. grant's officer's property record on one of these threads, with the PRIMARY source data some time ago. (to find it, look back on these threads about 12-18 months.)

frankly, i'm not interested in spending a LOT of my time doing research on a subject that is WELL-known (even to N-S!).

free dixie,sw

177 posted on 02/11/2007 11:51:36 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: BigCinBigD
also technically correct.

the "Confederatos" in Brazil say that they are the "CSA government in exile" & are the "legitimate government of the south", until the CS Congress meets again in Richmond!

free dixie,sw

178 posted on 02/11/2007 11:54:08 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: varina davis
the DAMNyankees did NOT dare try anyone for treason (or anything else for that matter), as they CORRECTLY feared that SECESSION would be adjudged to be LAWFUL and that therefore "mr lincoln's war" would be declared UNLAWFUL.

free dixie,sw

179 posted on 02/11/2007 11:57:09 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
does the phrase "some pigs are more equal than other pigs" ring true to YOU???

in 1865-70, grant could have done almost ANYTHING that he wanted to without consequence.

free dixie,sw

180 posted on 02/11/2007 11:59:47 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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