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NY Times Reporter Chastised for Saying He Wants US to Win in Iraq
Newsbusters ^ | 1/29/07 | Clay Waters

Posted on 01/30/2007 6:55:15 AM PST by pissant

Skip the boring bulk of Public Editor Byron Calame's latest innocuous, inside-baseball column and skip straight to the brief shirt-tail, "Drawing a Line."

Apparently some liberal Times readers complained that Times military reporter Michael Gordon had the bad taste to go on the PBS talk show"Charlie Rose" January 8 and say he wanted the United States to win the war in Iraq.

Calame:

"Times editors have carefully made clear their disapproval of the expression of a personal opinion about Iraq on national television by the paper’s chief military correspondent, Michael Gordon.

"The rumored military buildup in Iraq was a hot topic on the Jan. 8 'Charlie Rose' show, and the host asked Mr. Gordon if he believed 'victory is within our grasp.' The transcript of Mr. Gordon’s response, which he stressed was 'purely personal,' includes these comments:

"'So I think, you know, as a purely personal view, I think it’s worth it [sic] one last effort for sure to try to get this right, because my personal view is we’ve never really tried to win. We’ve simply been managing our way to defeat. And I think that if it’s done right, I think that there is the chance to accomplish something.'"

A Charlie Rose watcher complained, and Calame acted.

"I raised reader concerns about Mr. Gordon's voicing of personal opinions with top editors, and received a response from Philip Taubman, the Washington bureau chief. After noting that Mr. Gordon has 'long been mindful and respectful of the line between analysis and opinion in his television appearances,' Mr. Taubman went on to draw the line in this case.

"'I would agree with you that he stepped over the line on the ‘Charlie Rose’ show. I have discussed the appearances with Michael and I am satisfied that the comments on the Rose show were an aberration. They were a poorly worded shorthand for some analytical points about the military and political situation in Baghdad that Michael has made in the newspaper in a more nuanced and unopinionated way. He agrees his comments on the show went too far.'

"It’s a line drawn correctly by Mr. Taubman -- and accepted honorably by Mr. Gordon."

Apparently Gordon's sin was to admit he was putting forth a personal view. He should have been like his colleague Neil MacFarquhar, who works the Muslim-American beat, and who advanced his own liberal opinion on the Charlie Rose show, without any caveats about it being his "own personal view" (although it obviously was).

MacFarquhar appeared on "Charlie Rose" last July and slipped in this anti-Bush, America-critical personal commentary:

“If you talk to people my age -- I’m in my mid-40s -- and who grew up in poor countries like Morocco, you know, they will tell you that when they went to school in the mornings, they used to get milk, and they called it Kennedy milk because it was the Americans that sent them milk. And in 40 years, we have gone from Kennedy milk to the Bush administration rushing bombs to this part of the world. And it just erodes and erodes and erodes America’s reputation.”

Apparently MacFarquhar didn't get any lectures from Times editors for voicing liberal opinions on the Charlie Rose show.


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To: pissant

Sorry, Don't read TNYT, I have children and I don't allow pornography in the house


2 posted on 01/30/2007 7:03:27 AM PST by Boiling point (My tag line is grounded for misbehaving.)
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To: pissant

One has to question why the reporter was even on the show if he was not there to offer an opinion.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 7:05:37 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: pissant
Pray for Mr.Gordon, he is being sent into the reeducation camp, will he come out with BDS?

God help him.
4 posted on 01/30/2007 7:06:42 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: pissant

"A Charlie Rose watcher complained, and Calame acted."

Censorship. Can't have someone saying something the liberals don't want you to hear.


5 posted on 01/30/2007 7:07:09 AM PST by popdonnelly (Our first obligation is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: pissant

nytimes... NOT EVEN fit to wrap fish in..........


6 posted on 01/30/2007 7:07:24 AM PST by geo40xyz (Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT)
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To: Sans-Culotte

He was expected to have an opinion ... the problem was he had the WRONG opinion (according to the NYT).


7 posted on 01/30/2007 7:09:15 AM PST by NoBullZone (Attempting to dispel ... bull*hit)
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To: pissant

Why should we be surprised??? The same paper that has been giving terrorists and tyrants the benefit of the doubt for years is not wanting America to win another war?

I'm shocked, I tell ya. I'm in total shock.


8 posted on 01/30/2007 7:09:47 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the Drive By Media are a Criminal Enterprise!)
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To: pissant

Expressing one's own opinion is "stepping over the line"?.......Balderdash! Poppycock! Global Warming!.......


9 posted on 01/30/2007 7:11:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: pissant
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10 posted on 01/30/2007 7:12:03 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: pissant
Earns Preview: New York Times

"..Chief Executive Janet Robinson told an investor group in December that the Ochs-Sulzberger family won't change the long-standing dual-class share structure that has given it control of the company. The family owns about 20 percent of the company but maintains effective control through a separate class of shares that has special voting rights.

Earlier this month The New York Times said it will be cutting about 125 positions through buyouts and other steps at The Boston Globe and the Telegram & Gazette of Worcester and outsourcing some finance and advertising work..."

As long as the Ochs-Sulzberger family has control with its "special" class of stock nothing can change. I don't know why it is legal for this stock to be publicly traded when there is a reserved class with all the power the buying public has no access to. Corruption is inevitable in such a system. Does anyone think that drooling imbecile Pinch Sulzberger would be chairman of The New York Times Company without a fixed voting system?

11 posted on 01/30/2007 7:14:46 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: pissant
I think every Dim/Lib should be ask:

"Do you want the United States of America to win the war in Iraq?"

Get them on the record, or make them squirm.

12 posted on 01/30/2007 7:15:42 AM PST by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: pissant

Wrong thinking is punished, right thinking is just as swiftly rewarded.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 7:16:34 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Samoans: The (low) wage slaves in the Pelosi-Starkist complex.)
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To: NoBullZone

I wonder if he would have been "chastised" if he had said that his personal opinion is that the U. S. had no chance of winning and the surge was a mistake?


14 posted on 01/30/2007 7:19:08 AM PST by chickadee
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Maybe Charlie Rose should have asked Gordon for his assessment of the wisdom of holding NYT common stock in an investment portfolio...given the widespread reportage of its plummeting value, Gordon surely couldn't have been accused of offering a personal opinion on THAT...


15 posted on 01/30/2007 7:19:19 AM PST by Clioman
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To: Boiling point

I Don't read TNYT, I don't allow hate pamphlets in the house.


16 posted on 01/30/2007 7:21:48 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Clioman

Editors won't be railing at the inequity of Ochs-Sulzberger class stock. That is for sure.


17 posted on 01/30/2007 7:24:25 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: La Enchiladita

BUMP!


18 posted on 01/30/2007 7:24:43 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Boiling point

Each day it becomes clearer and clearer that the NYT, and indeed a majority of the mainstream media, are anti-American. They want to see our country brought to its knees, their hatred for Bush knows no bounds, and they have more sympathy for terrorists than they do for their fellow Americans. During the 20s and 30s they rooted for and defended Stalin, and they only reason the NYT sided with America against Hitler during World War II is that it is owned by Jews. It has now turned on Israel. It is ambivalent on the subject of 9/11. Its reporters and editors and management repreent the greatest gathering of America haters this side of the Washington Post. For that reason I tend to read the travel section, the truly hilarious wedding announcements, and little else.


19 posted on 01/30/2007 7:30:09 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: Boiling point

20 posted on 01/30/2007 7:32:37 AM PST by Gritty (By now it's undeniable: The New York Times is a national security threat. - Heather MacDonald)
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