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Are the Right People Becoming Teachers? ( Teachers are NOT Professionals)
EdNews.org ^ | January 9,2007 | Martin Haberman

Posted on 01/30/2007 5:45:59 AM PST by wintertime

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1. The practitioners know and can do things the public in general cannot do. They have a specialized body of knowledge.

2. The specialized body of knowledge practitioners have takes an extended period of time to learn.

3. The educators who prepare the practitioners are experts who agree upon the specialized body of knowledge practitioners must have.

4. Admission to a professional training program is highly selective.( snip).

6. Only members of the profession set the standards for licensure and certification.

7. The primary responsibility and loyalty of a professional is to serve the client and not simply the institution or governmental agency in which the practitioner may be employed.

8. Neither the public at large nor an employing institution may control the way in which professionals relate to their clients, or the treatments, methods or procedures they use.

9. Neither the public at large nor an employing institution may set the purpose, goals or objectives for the practitioner’s practice with clients.

10. The public at large does not decide how to evaluate professionals.

11. Only members of the profession can determine malpractice and dismiss or disbar practitioners.

12. Professionals determine the cost of their services.

19. Professionals are trained to serve clients with problems. By definition “professionals” do not seek to perform services to clients without problems.

21. Professionals share a code of ethics to which they commit and adhere. They cannot be directed to perform or not perform services for clients which conflict with their professional code.

The case that teaching does not meet any of these twenty one criteria can be readily made.

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To: wintertime

Teachers are stealth propagandists for the Left. Not all of course but the core definately is nothing but Draft Dodger hopefulls.


21 posted on 01/30/2007 6:25:48 AM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"...but I think the only professions that would really meet this criterion would be doctors and lawyers (and vets)."

I would argue that the military would qualify as well....

22 posted on 01/30/2007 6:26:49 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Your sister deserves the utmost respect.


23 posted on 01/30/2007 6:27:37 AM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: reeb88

Yes, there are some teachers who deserve scorn.

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I scorn enablers!

Any teacher who cooperates with at system that is chaotic, lacks discipline, is highly sexualized, uses ineffectual educational practices that leave children illiterate and innumerate is NOT a professional.

Please see : Criteria #7 #8 #9 #21


24 posted on 01/30/2007 6:28:11 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are .not stupid)
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To: jongaltsr
"Teachers are stealth propagandists for the Left."

Call me a traditionalist, but I prefer the time-honored term, "useful idiots." (Not all, of course...just the overwhelming majority).

25 posted on 01/30/2007 6:28:16 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: pikachu

I have students who need hearings aids and glasses but refuse to wear them. I am encouraged to accommodate them. Teaching is very difficult and it does indeed take a few years to get the hang of classroom management and teaching focused on the ever-shifting requirements set down from on high here in California. I hope I don't have to do it for much longer.


26 posted on 01/30/2007 6:29:07 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Please see post #17.


27 posted on 01/30/2007 6:29:23 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are .not stupid)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

"Like you, I don't understand the need to rip on teaching, as a profession, if you're unhappy with certain teachers out there."

You all haven't seen wintertimes other threads?
She won't be happy until all public schools are shut down because teachers and administrators refuse to report for work.
It seems that until they come up with the perfect curriculum, have the perfect teaching staffs, and have eliminated absolutely all safety risks - then no children or adults should be setting foot on public school property.

Imagine all the kids running around getting into trouble while their parent are forced to leave them home while they work to pay the bills.

And when these kids get into trouble and get hurt - who will be the first folks they blame? That's right - the teachers and administrators who go "on strike."

Wintertime doesn't seem to apply this same standard to her own industry - the medical field.
I think doctors and nurses should refuse to report to work until they eliminate the risk of infection to innocent patients.
Everday perfectly healthy people are catching diseases at medical facilities, and people with minor health problems leave the hospital in a hearse after contracting a staph infection from a "minor" surgery.


28 posted on 01/30/2007 6:29:31 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Joe 6-pack
Call me a traditionalist, but I prefer the time-honored term, "useful idiots." (Not all, of course...just the overwhelming majority).

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I call them enablers.

But,,,you are correct. They are the useful idiots of the Marxist Left.
29 posted on 01/30/2007 6:30:54 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are .not stupid)
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To: mware
You are one of the good ones!
Your children are blessed!
30 posted on 01/30/2007 6:32:15 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

"I'm not sure, but I think the only professions that would really meet this criterion would be doctors and lawyers (and vets)."

The rule I use to differentiate between professions and trades is this:

If an enthusiastic amateur can outperform a disengaged professional 90% of the time it is a trade. If a disengaged professional can outperform an enthusiastic amateur 90% of the time it is a profession.

Homeschooling parents are the definition of an enthusiastic amateur. They regulalry outperform uncaring teachers -- teaching is a trade. (A skilled trade, but a trade. Yet the odds are no matter how enthusiastic you are a brain surgeon with a bad case of DGAS is going to do an operation better than you can. Medicine is a profession. So is the law. So is engineering.


31 posted on 01/30/2007 6:32:57 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Call me a traditionalist, but I prefer the time-honored term, "useful idiots." (Not all, of course...just the overwhelming majority).

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Those teachers who are NOT the "useful idiots" of the Marxist Left, well...what are they?

These teachers are enablers! They are cooperating with a system that is working to destroy our nation and Western Civilization. We are supposed to "respect" these people? I don't think so!

We certainly should NOT be inviting them to the Rose Garden to be given the Mother Teresa Award by the president!
32 posted on 01/30/2007 6:34:22 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are .not stupid)
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To: Scotswife

Bravo!!!!! Well said.


33 posted on 01/30/2007 6:35:07 AM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: wintertime
Please see post #17.

Thanks, but I already read it, and determined you were (a) incontinent, (b) a crank, or (c) both.

34 posted on 01/30/2007 6:35:35 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I think the professions are law, medicine and engineering.


35 posted on 01/30/2007 6:35:58 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yeah, but I gotta tell ya, I have a hard time choking back a comment when the trainer at my local fitness center refers to his "clients". Gimme a break, he's got a degree in exercise kinesiology (which used to be physical education)!


36 posted on 01/30/2007 6:36:41 AM PST by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: HIDEK6

You left out "the oldest profession"? ;-)


37 posted on 01/30/2007 6:38:11 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: mware

Good job.

Are you outnumbered in your school?


38 posted on 01/30/2007 6:38:17 AM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: mware
...but our county hired a young woman who is very angry with life and has extreme problems....

..she's tried suicide at least once....tried lesbianism...but now living with a guy....

..covered her huge tattoos for the school interview, plus her numerous piercings.

She's a liberal to the nth degree....

..and she's teaching highschool.

Great, huh.

39 posted on 01/30/2007 6:38:37 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: Scotswife

I had no idea of the history, but it makes perfect sense now. Thanks for the background.


40 posted on 01/30/2007 6:38:42 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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