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1 posted on 01/29/2007 9:08:13 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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Up front lets remember that the 2nd Ammendment is not about hunting ducks....

Meadow Muffin


2 posted on 01/29/2007 9:09:27 AM PST by rwgal
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with extremist groups like Minutemen

Lost me there. Otherwise: good article

3 posted on 01/29/2007 9:09:36 AM PST by agere_contra
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We are willing to consider creative new ways to identify weapons that have been used for criminal purposes and wish the National Rifle Association were more cooperative in this effort.

I'm not so sure about this, as most of the "creative" things proposed are unworkable or infringe on our rights.

4 posted on 01/29/2007 9:12:40 AM PST by Disambiguator
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Good article...


5 posted on 01/29/2007 9:15:51 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Conservatives protect Americans from terrorists. Liberals protect terrorists from Americans.")
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Of course,the original minutemen where the real extremists.

Thank God...


6 posted on 01/29/2007 9:16:46 AM PST by VoyagerXII
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We don’t own fully automatic weapons.

Not that it would matter if we did.

7 posted on 01/29/2007 9:16:47 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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"We are aware that at some point in the future, we or our descendants may need to fight against the government or an invading force"

Which could very well happen if the dhimmicrats retake the White House next year.
10 posted on 01/29/2007 9:26:27 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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We gun owners believe in and obey the nation’s laws regarding illegal use of firearms.

I read the whole thing but I don't "believe in" all the restrictive gun laws that have been imposed on us and that have restricted the 2nd Amendment! Unfortunately, since I'm law-abiding, I must obey these restrictive laws.

11 posted on 01/29/2007 9:33:22 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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"We apply for and receive concealed weapons permits, not because we plan to carry a gun around, but because we want be able to legally transport guns in our vehicles without leaving them in plain sight, as the law requires."

WTF???!!! I have a cc permit, precisely because I DO carry a gun around, and the only reason I do not own a fully automatic weapon is because Reagan made it financially impossible for me to do so.


12 posted on 01/29/2007 9:35:37 AM PST by RayStacy
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We apply for and receive concealed weapons permits, not because we plan to carry a gun around, but because we want be able to legally transport guns in our vehicles without leaving them in plain sight, as the law requires.

Wrong

14 posted on 01/29/2007 9:40:28 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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auther is a pretender


19 posted on 01/29/2007 10:21:04 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Conservatism - For Thinking People)
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20 posted on 01/29/2007 10:39:07 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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We don’t own fully automatic weapons.

LOL, speak for yourself, Pat!

We apply for and receive concealed weapons permits, not because we plan to carry a gun around,

Again, speak for yourself, Pat.

but because we want be able to legally transport guns in our vehicles without leaving them in plain sight, as the law requires.

Fortunately, in my state, I don't need a permit to carry a gun in my glovebox.

We don’t stockpile ammunition

I do.

or train for guerrilla action.

Do tactical carbine/handgun classes count?

Pretty lame article, if you ask me, but I guess he's doing pretty good for Oregon.

23 posted on 01/29/2007 10:52:57 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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Second amdendment softies and other moderates such as this guy should bear in mind that the Brady types of the nation will smile and shake his hand - and then stab him in the back and have him for lunch as soon as they get the chance. He'll be grinning his idiotic grin and muttering, "Come on, can't we all get along?" when the jackboots break down his door to confiscate his firearms on some specious pretext or other. Good luck, pal.


24 posted on 01/29/2007 12:09:53 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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We don’t own fully automatic weapons.

Somewhat inconsistent in the context of self defense. Nothing like Ma Deuce for defending your house.

We apply for and receive concealed weapons permits, not because we plan to carry a gun around, but because we want be able to legally transport guns in our vehicles without leaving them in plain sight, as the law requires.

Wrong again we apply for carry permits to ... carry.

We store most of our guns in safes,

No we don't we hide them in various abditories around the house.

early age, but we don’t leave guns around where they have access to them.

No, we make sure the kids use their own guns, not ours.

We gun owners believe in and obey the nation’s laws regarding illegal use of firearms.

We believe the nations laws about guns are a pile of stinking crap

We want to see those laws aggressively enforced and transgressions even more aggressively punished,

We want law enforcement to deal with real crimes not phone balone gun crimes like "gun running"

. We are willing to consider creative new ways to identify weapons that have been used for criminal purposes and wish the National Rifle Association were more cooperative in this effort.

We do not wish any further intrusinve government surveilence against our property. and we think the NRA is too wimpy in not mounting sufficient opposition to this flawed and evil concept

We have no problem with the present system of registration of guns sold by licensed dealers,

We have serious problems and want ot go back to the way it was prior to GC '68 where you could buy guns through the mail and crime was much lower than it is today.

I could go on, but the guy who wrote this is clearly not a pro-gunner.

25 posted on 01/29/2007 12:21:04 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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We don’t stockpile ammunition or train for guerrilla action.

We don't? Is there something wrong with that?

Is there something wrong with having a few thousand rounds for each of the calibers I shoot? Ammo has a great shelf life and I like buying when the prices are low. That makes great sense when I see the price of copper going through the roof now.

Training for guerilla action? I'm not sure what that even is. I've had basic infantry training 30 years ago, courtesy of Uncle Sam and I've had tactical training in the last few years. I compete in action pistol and 3 gun sports to keep my skills alive. Is that a sin?

I don't like it when authors like this one, are dismissive of those of us who actually prepare for the dark days that may lie ahead. And no, I don't belong to any militias, etc.

28 posted on 01/29/2007 1:40:51 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Some of what this guy says is right.


29 posted on 01/29/2007 6:17:12 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (vobns.blogspot.com)
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The author comes across as being rather soft and mushy like when he makes squeamish comments about stockpiling ammo and the Minutemen. However the target audience is liberals and non-gun owners so I guess you have to soften the approach. As for myself, I have no warfare training and do not try to train for guerilla warfare but I do stockpile ammo once in a while when I get enough money (you never know when prices may spike) and try to keep up my skills every so often, mainly working on accuracy and quick target aquisition. Squirrle hunting with a .22 is good practice for quick target acquisition and easily carries over to any standard combat rifle, which I think everyone should have. If the time comes to fight off enemies you can do plenty of damage just by staying in practice with accurate targeting and being in decent physical shape and being mentally alert and calm, even if you're like myself and have little knowledge of fighting tactics.


30 posted on 01/29/2007 7:35:52 PM PST by Firefigher NC
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Try not to go after me too hard for saying this but I really dislike it when folks on our side talk of firearms as "tools." To me a tool is something that is used in a trade or a work-function--generally a peaceful one.

No, to me a firearm is a weapon. Nothing more and nothing less. If we're using the word "tool" to describe something you kill someone with, you're sorta hiding behind pleasant sounding language. There is not, nor should there be any stigma in using the word "weapon" to descibe firearm use by law abiding citizens.
31 posted on 02/02/2007 7:32:00 AM PST by Live free or die
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