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In Florida, it's easy to get license to carry gun
Orlando Sentinel (Tribune Corp) ^ | 01/28/07 | Megan O'Matz and John Maines

Posted on 01/28/2007 8:27:19 PM PST by VeniVidiVici

Florida has given concealed weapon licenses to hundreds of people who wouldn't have a chance of getting them in most other states because of their criminal histories. Courts have found them responsible for assaults, burglaries, sexual battery, drug possession, child molestation -- even homicide.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; cwp; florida; guns; permit; rkba
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Hit piece by the Tribune Corp on gun permits in Florida. This one is so bad that the story is about giving permits to people who have been found "responsible" for a given crime. Note the lack of the words "guilty" or "convicted" in the article.

Plus, they couldn't even state an example of a permit holder who has committed a crime while holdinga permit.

Are there some folks who have permits that shouldn't have permits? More than likely. And the Tribune Corp are the ones who want to decide.

One last thing; a part of the article mentions legislation passed by the FL legislature that made previously public permit holder data private. This was in response to an Orlando TV station publishing names and addresses of Central Florida permit holders. Their reasoning was that the data was public and people ought to know.

Funny thing was, folks here and other boards around the net were outraged at this malicious attempt to intimidate permit holders.

It didn't take long for folks here and elsewhere to dig up "public information", tax records if you will, and post the names and addresses of the Orlando TV station GM and other employees.

Naturally, when the shoe is on the other foot the MSM recoils in fear so the permit data was almost immediately taken down. The rest is history. Of course, Tribune doesn't go into detail over this but you can tell that they hate permit holders privacy now trumpts their access to the data.

For those who want to stomach it, this is a four-part series sked to run thru Weds. I'm sure the rest will be just as bad as this.

Funny thing is I picked up today's paper to review it. I had recently decided that my knowledge of local news was lacking so I had planned to renew my 5-year defunct subscription to the Sentinel. Heck, I never made it off the front page before my blood was boiling again.

1 posted on 01/28/2007 8:27:22 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

bttt


2 posted on 01/28/2007 8:28:40 PM PST by stainlessbanner ("I cannot be destroyed. I cannot be silenced. I cannot be compromised." - The Nuge)
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To: VeniVidiVici
If they could cite ONE CCW holder who has committed a crime you can be sure they would broadcast it all over the country. They can't.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 01/28/2007 8:35:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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This is ridiculout. my husband took months to straighten out a mess from 1970 to get his.... turned out he had been stopped and had beer in his car on a sunday in atlanta...they called it "controlled substance"....lol... i think he paid a fine, wasn't a felony, took months of phone calls between atlanta and tallahassee. they will probably link it back to the law that lets you protect yourself also.


4 posted on 01/28/2007 8:38:23 PM PST by libbylu
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"... licenses to hundreds of people who wouldn't have a chance of getting them in most other states ..."

Your most exalted citizens down there wouldn't have a chance of getting a license here in Maryland.

5 posted on 01/28/2007 8:40:09 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Argh. Let me clarify one thing; in Florida we only have "permits" for one thing and that is to carry concealed.

Rereading my post that wasn't clear so let me say again that the article is about FL citizens that have concealed weapons permits.


6 posted on 01/28/2007 8:48:03 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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The last time I was in Florida, I had several of my weapons along. (I have a CCW from a reciprocal state) I took my daughter to an indoor range, for some refamiliarization.

She now has her CCW and has been suitably accessorized. LOL ... She is also a better shot than I am. We both hit the target, but hers is a tighter pattern.
7 posted on 01/28/2007 9:02:00 PM PST by rock58seg (NO McCAIN, NO STAIN, NO PAIN, ONLY GAIN)
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8 posted on 01/28/2007 9:44:02 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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My buddy's getting rid of his 229 in .40 and a .357 barrel for $550. IT'S SO TEMPTING.


9 posted on 01/28/2007 9:48:46 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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The Broward UnSentient also published the series. The Palm Beach comPost had an article above the fold today about gang bangers with assault rifles!!!!!

I think there were three shootings with rifles in Palm Beach County in 2006. As for the dopey police chief they quoted who thinks CCW puts guns in the hands of criminals, maybe he ought to try arresting a criminal instead of sucking up to the city council and inflating his pension.

Did you know that the reason you can personally own a machine gun in Broward County is because the sheriff got caught signing the transfers for his buddies, got sued, and now he has to sign them for anyone who asks? Everyone else in south Florida has to form a corporation or a living trust to go Class III, but in Fort Lauderdale, the machine gun owner actually benefits from corrupt law enforcement.

10 posted on 01/28/2007 9:56:41 PM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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Okay, I read the whole thing and I think I get it - - some criminals are getting concealed carry permits. Other than that, I don't see what the point of the story is.... Surely the author's point can't be that if criminals are denied carry permits they will snap their fingers, say "aw shucks", and decline to carry a gun because that would be against the law? That can't be it, right?


11 posted on 01/28/2007 9:57:03 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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(I have a CCW from a reciprocal state)

I didn't know there was such a thing as reciprocity for carry permits.

12 posted on 01/28/2007 9:58:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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I didn't know there was such a thing as reciprocity for carry permits.

IIRC the Utah permit is valid in something like 10 States.

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13 posted on 01/28/2007 10:05:45 PM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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They're not even criminals - that's what you didn't get and the story ensured that you did not get it. Florida has a procedure in which you can plead guilty to an offense and subject yourself to whatever probation or penalty the court requires. That is witholding adjudication. After a period of time, like three years, your rights are restored. The court never said you were guilty, your conviction is witheld. Should you screw up some time in the future, they can instate it.

I know of seven FFLs in Palm Beach County and maybe ten in Broward. I've passed at least fifty golf courses in Palm Beach County, so I guess things like research and accuracy mean very little when there is an exciting liberal cause to promote and the democrats control the house again. There are a few other tabletop dealers, I have no way to know who they are. There are at least fifty golf courses in PB. Probably the paper included C&R FFLs without bothering to explain what those are. That is an intentional distortion of the truth and it is disgusting.

And the idea that a guy who was caught with 500 pounds of pot is going to obey a gun law is so absurd that only the dinosaur media could print it. These jerks caterwaul about how we have to forgive bloodthirsty killers when a death penalty is sentenced, but if a first offender is actually forgiven, well the libs at the local rag better get him before he buys a gun and votes republican.

14 posted on 01/28/2007 10:09:05 PM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.ccrkba.org/reciprocity.html


15 posted on 01/28/2007 10:12:43 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.packing.org/state/florida/#thisstatehonors


16 posted on 01/28/2007 10:13:06 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Oh and the Florida resident permit is valid in 30 other states. The non resident permit is valid in less states, but it is still widely honored. If you live in a hell hole like New Jersey or Illinois, get the Florida non resident permit and it is valid in a large part of the country. Packing.org - click on the license tool in the top bar.
17 posted on 01/28/2007 10:14:31 PM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
And many editors and reporters are responsible for split infinitives, dangling participles, improper attributions, run-on sentences, incomplete sentences, and non-verification of facts....

I say, let's take away their First Amendment public writing permits.

None needed? Then why do they insist anyone needs a Second Amendment permit?
18 posted on 01/28/2007 10:19:06 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Lancey Howard

There are approximatly 30 states that honor each others CCW permits. Each state usually has a web site regatding CCW permits and which states have reciprocity.

For instance traveling from Texas to NYC via Chicago, The only places I would not be legal are the only two places where I would probably have a real need. NYC and Chicago. I am exxagerating only slightly.


19 posted on 01/28/2007 10:21:27 PM PST by rock58seg (NO McCAIN, NO STAIN, NO PAIN, ONLY GAIN)
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To: endthematrix; Gondring; rock58seg

Wow! Thanks for the links. I have a Pennsylvania CC permit and it's nice to know where it's good.


20 posted on 01/28/2007 10:23:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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