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How to Lose a War (A MUST-READ! Really! An article to disseminate as widly as possible!)
The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | January 28, 2007 | Bradley R. Gitz

Posted on 01/28/2007 10:59:35 AM PST by quidnunc

Perhaps the most immoral decision ever made by any agent of our federal government was Congress’ decision to pull the rug out from under the government of South Vietnam.

The decision to abandon Saigon was actually taken in three steps. The first came in June 1973 when Congress passed the Case-Church Amendment prohibiting further U.S. military involvement in Southeast Asia. As Henry Kissinger has bitterly noted, that act decisively undercut the ability of the Nixon administration to enforce the provisions of the Paris Peace Accords that had been signed just a few months earlier.

The second step was Congress’ decision to cut its aid appropriations for South Vietnam by nearly half for fiscal 1974-75. That cut thoroughly demoralized the South Vietnamese government and military and, as archival records from North Vietnam later revealed, led Hanoi to begin preparing its final offensive.

The ugly story finally came to a close just a few months later, when the newly installed “Watergate” Congress refused desperate requests from the Ford administration for emergency American aid with which to resist Hanoi’s Soviet-supplied invasion.

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The security situation in the countryside of South Vietnam had improved dramatically by the early 1970s, with the Viet Cong having been effectively swept from the villages and rice paddies due to the losses suffered during the Tet offensive and the subsequent effectiveness of Creighton Abrams’ “clear and hold” tactics.

The Paris Peace Accords of January 1973 gave the United States and South Vietnam virtually everything we had sought in five years of frustrating negotiations. Promised a generous level of American aid and swift American retaliation in response to communist violations of the peace accords, South Vietnam appeared to have been saved.

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TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; liberalism; southvietnam; vietnam
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1 posted on 01/28/2007 10:59:37 AM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

BUMP


2 posted on 01/28/2007 11:07:07 AM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: quidnunc; SandRat; river rat; MikefromOhio; jazusamo
Fortunately, the House's Class of 1974 is mostly gone, but their legacy still influences the current crop of Congressional Democrats.
3 posted on 01/28/2007 11:08:26 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: quidnunc

So Vietnam might have had a different ending if we didn't have Watergate?


4 posted on 01/28/2007 11:09:33 AM PST by Coachm
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To: quidnunc
I think there's some kind of strange inference here that the Democrats and the RINOs who support them somehow don't actually want to lose the war in Iraq and are just "misguided." Don't bet on it. They want us to lose, and this article gives them a blueprint for it.
5 posted on 01/28/2007 11:11:46 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Coachm
So Vietnam might have had a different ending if we didn't have Watergate?

Yes.

6 posted on 01/28/2007 11:11:57 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("... without victory there is no survival." - Winston Churchill)
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To: Coachm

Unfortunately, our populace is very poorly educated, so even if they notice what Congress is doing (like giving Congressional voting rights to representatives of non-states like Guam), they are too ignorant to know it is unconstitional and dangerous.


7 posted on 01/28/2007 11:12:20 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: Clintonfatigued; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...

The Cowardly Surrender Monkeys of the '60s return.


8 posted on 01/28/2007 11:12:20 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
They want us to lose

Yes they do. The Center-Left believes that the United States is evil and deserves to get its comeuppance.

9 posted on 01/28/2007 11:13:33 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("... without victory there is no survival." - Winston Churchill)
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To: quidnunc
Indeed, many have drawn parallels between Vietnam and Iraq, but they didn't learn the proper lesson from Vietnam.

In Vietnam we were NEVER beaten in the field. The war was lost at home and in the press.

After the loss of many American and Vietnamese lives, we deserted the South Vietnam government and set them up for downfall. That is the real tragedy of that war, that Vietnam fell to communists, because of American betrayal.

General Westermorland wrote a book called, "A Soldier Reports." It is a good read.
10 posted on 01/28/2007 11:13:35 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: quidnunc

That's what our Congress is trying to do now. How can they do this to America? Repeat their mistakes and put America, our troops in danger. Do these people love their country? No. It's all about winning politically. This time we will not give in. They can do their little speeches, postures, whatever, true Americans will not give in.


11 posted on 01/28/2007 11:13:54 AM PST by freekitty
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To: freekitty

The tragedy is they do not want Iraqi's to be free. Freedom and the ability to think and solve your problems yourself is not what they want.


12 posted on 01/28/2007 11:15:07 AM PST by freekitty
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To: quidnunc

Too many don't know the truth. Rather than "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it", we have the democrats who know history and vow to repeat it.


13 posted on 01/28/2007 11:18:22 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: quidnunc
I've just started reading Triumph Forsaken The Vietnam War 1954-1965, by Mark Moyar. Certainly not the first, but the most recent revisionist history of the Vietnam war. BTW, *he* calls himself a revisionist... It's been a sad read so far. It's also a well documented book. Things could have gone differently. I wonder when we'll start getting the same kind of books about Iraq and the GWOT?
14 posted on 01/28/2007 11:21:23 AM PST by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: quidnunc

This is not about doing the right thing, or winning.

This is about a power grab. It's about a democrat congress imposing its will on the foreign policy which has always been the purview of the president. This is about the congress going abroad and trying to conduct foreign policy by undermining the president.

This is about the democrat congress undermining the Commander in Chief provision of the Constitution when the president is a republican - they don't do it when the president is a democrat - like Clinton in Kosovo or bombing in Yogoslavia.

Democrats never undermine a democrat president - republicans do undermine a republican president.

But the overriding intent is to cripple America's ability to wage war in defense of itself, its allies and interests.

They cripple the American spirit - and that's how we lose - not by losing on the battlefield. Doing it this way is even deadlier.

If you lose a battle you can hope to come back another day. But if the spirit is crippled - there is no coming back.

This is a direct descendant of what happened in Vietnam - the American spirit was crippled. For a couple of decades after that American soldiers were afraid to wear their uniforms. We owe this to the decadent American left and its running dogs the media, academia and Hollywood. What a team.

What happened to Jane Fonda's apology?

Obviously she didn't mean it.


15 posted on 01/28/2007 11:24:59 AM PST by Basheva
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To: quidnunc; Clintonfatigued

I'm praying the Rats don't enable history to repeat itself. They looney left are spinless cowards.


16 posted on 01/28/2007 11:25:11 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: quidnunc
A CLASSIC!

Frank Forrester Church III (July 25, 1924 – April 7, 1984) was a United States Senator from Idaho from 1957 to 1981. Church was a member of the Idaho Democratic Party.

What happened when Democrats in Congress cut off funding for the Vietnam War?

17 posted on 01/28/2007 11:28:47 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: radar101
<<<<>>> The people of the South were left to the tender mercies of the North. Pol Pot reigned supreme in Cambodia - where millions died.
18 posted on 01/28/2007 11:31:41 AM PST by Basheva
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To: Coachm

Yes. That is why you hear the liberal press still gloating about their success with creating the Watergate scandal. The libs were in their glory. It got rid of Nixon, allowed the advancement of their beloved communism in Southeast Asia, and, among other things, it eventually brought in the likes of their golden boy, Jimmy Carter who, in actuality, was - and is - a disaster for this country, not to mention Iran.

You might say it had a rippling effect, and not for the betterment of mankind. Don't forget that millions were slaughtered in SE Asia after the democrat congress pulled us out. And just look at what we are dealing with in Iran today because of Carter.


19 posted on 01/28/2007 11:32:00 AM PST by Swede Girl
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To: Coachm

I think so.


20 posted on 01/28/2007 11:32:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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