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Giuliani Is Sounding More Like a Candidate
New York Times ^ | 1/28/07 | RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA

Posted on 01/28/2007 10:18:35 AM PST by Blackirish

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To: nopardons
Many Christians would much rather have Rudy for president than Hillary

If by Christians, you mean fundamentalist social conservatives, you would be correct. They are donating to Rudy's campaign, at least the one's in Michigan.

So the grand pronouncements by the self-proclaimed conservatives on the Rudy threads, that they will never vote, much less support him, are provably false.

141 posted on 01/28/2007 5:10:32 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
If by Christians, you mean fundamentalist social conservatives, you would be correct. They are donating to Rudy's campaign, at least the one's in Michigan.

Got link?

142 posted on 01/28/2007 5:13:43 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: P8riot
Living in Virginia, "opposing" Bloomberg, who is the mayor of N.Y.C. and NOT running for the president, is about as efficacious and meaningful as my objections to Webb being your Senator. How's THAT going for ya, BTW? :-)
143 posted on 01/28/2007 5:15:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Blackirish

If we don't continue to fight and win the war on terror...nothing else will matter. If we need to elect Rudy for that reason only...He will have my vote. We can fight out the social issues, but if we lose the war...my already born children will be in perile.

What is so difficult to understand about that?

This election really is a matter of life and death.


144 posted on 01/28/2007 5:16:15 PM PST by KsSunflower
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To: Blackirish

The Anti-Rudyites are in full shriek I see. Don't worry. The idea of President Giuiliani will grow on you. Particularly when you consider the alternative, President Clinton II


145 posted on 01/28/2007 5:16:26 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: muleskinner
The antis, here, speak ONLY for themselves; though they DO try to claim otherwise. LOL

Yes, I know and many thanks for your factual post!

146 posted on 01/28/2007 5:18:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Many Christians would much rather have Rudy for president than Hillary;

I'd rather gave Rudy than Hillary. Atleast he is honest. But I will go for someone more conservative in the primary.
147 posted on 01/28/2007 5:24:50 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

He's a serial cheater. That doesn't strike me as honest.


148 posted on 01/28/2007 5:25:41 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Delphinium

And I have NO problem, none whatsoever, with that. :-)


149 posted on 01/28/2007 5:27:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Blackirish

**Giuliani Is Sounding More Like a Candidate**

Of course he is!

Security bump.


150 posted on 01/28/2007 5:28:38 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: dirtboy
The link is the interview I heard on KSFO radio in San Francisco. Lee Rodgers and Mellanie Morgan( She of Move America Forward) hosting.

Richard Miniter was interviewed on the radio Friday A.M. He writes for National Review Online and is author of "The Shadow War", "Disinformation" and "Losing Bin Laden - How Bill Clinton's failure's unleashed global terror" - well conected in political circles.

He stated that Rudy is getting the Social Conservative Republicans in Michigan to write checks to his campaign. They hear what he has to say and they are liking it. If he's able to get Michigandrs to no only support him, but write checks, he should be able to get the same results countrywide.

KSFO may have the interview recorded on their website. I haven't checked.

If you e-mail Mr. Miniter, he would no doubt confirm the statement. He didn't state where he got the information, he just passed it along. Very inside stuff, I suspect.

151 posted on 01/28/2007 5:37:21 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: nopardons
Living in Virginia, "opposing" Bloomberg, who is the mayor of N.Y.C. and NOT running for the president, is about as efficacious and meaningful as my objections to Webb being your Senator. How's THAT going for ya, BTW? :-)

Well I don't know what rock you've been hiding under, but Bloomberg has come against us. He has been operating an illegal sting operation against legitimate gun dealers using proxies to carry out illegal straw purchases of weapons from federally licensed dealers here, and in several other states as well. And if you have been paying attention he and his mayoral minions have basically given congress an ultimatum (not sure how he'd carry it out), pushing for draconian gun laws nationwide by 2008, or else.

As for Webb, don't blame me for that.

Take your sophomoric vindictiveness somewhere else, I haven't got time for it.

152 posted on 01/28/2007 5:37:59 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot
Take your schoolyard bully routine to some forum that might accept it, as your sophistic, mendacious blathering.

Then, YOU can crawl back to wherever it is that you've been spending all of your time; precious.

153 posted on 01/28/2007 5:41:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: muleskinner
Mr. Miniter stated that
" Rudy is getting the Social Conservative Republicans in Michigan to write checks to his campaign. They hear what he has to say and they are liking it."

I added the following,
If he's able to get Michiganders to not only support him, but write checks, he should be able to get the same results countrywide.

154 posted on 01/28/2007 5:43:17 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
He stated that Rudy is getting the Social Conservative Republicans in Michigan to write checks to his campaign.

So all you have is one person on talk radio making a claim.

155 posted on 01/28/2007 5:46:28 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: Post-Neolithic
If Rudy is President they get a Liberal

What nonsense. They hated his guts because hes NOT a liberal. If he was President of the whole country he's be 10 times as conservative as the ineffectual Bush

156 posted on 01/28/2007 5:48:42 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Barnacle
The question facing Rudy is whether enough Democrats would vote for him to win.

Turning the '08 general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.

157 posted on 01/28/2007 5:51:03 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: P8riot
He has been operating an illegal sting operation against legitimate gun dealers using proxies to carry out illegal straw purchases of weapons from federally licensed dealers here...

Interesting story - link?

BTW, nopardons did post a smiley face w/snoot.:-)

158 posted on 01/28/2007 5:52:29 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: dirtboy
So all you have is one person on talk radio making a claim.

If one were of a mind to minimize the significance of the information, one could put it in those terms.
Now, if I were to go on a local talk show and say such things, then yes, all you would have is one person on a talk show making a claim.
Richard Miniter has many more sources and time to investigate such information. I would think he ought to be taken far more seriesly than some anonymous caller making a claim.

159 posted on 01/28/2007 6:01:28 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: nopardons

See we can agree. I guess you're not so bad after all.:-)


160 posted on 01/28/2007 6:04:05 PM PST by Delphinium
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