Yes indeed...is there any country worse than ours, Prof. Hersch? That must be why people from all over the world risk their lives to come here, right? We're just a no good, racist country, and we should only aspire to be as good as the Euros and, say, Mexico. Yeah--that's the ticket.
1 posted on
01/28/2007 4:43:38 AM PST by
Pharmboy
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"and the chief reason appears to be discrimination"
Considering the source of this article, this is the most predictable line in the whole piece.
2 posted on
01/28/2007 4:44:55 AM PST by
Darkwolf377
(Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
To: Pharmboy
Didn't "The Bell Curve" demonstrate an intellect difference correlated with skin color? Perhaps Prof. Hersch should have put IQ into the parameter mix, or not - too bland, no headlines! Well Professor, I did not see IQ as a factor in your list of considerations, what about that? Forgive my lack of PCness.
4 posted on
01/28/2007 4:55:03 AM PST by
GregoryFul
(There's no truth in the New York Times)
To: Pharmboy
Were Asian Indians included in this "survey" ? Are Chineese and Koreans considered "lighter" than Hispanics? How does the doctor explain the success of these ethnic groups?
What metric did the doctor use to judge skin pimentation? Was it the "brown paper bag test".
I note the doctor only studied "legal" immigrants surely if he studied "undocumented immigrants" the results would be much differant..
7 posted on
01/28/2007 5:09:50 AM PST by
Kid Shelleen
( If a liberal weenie supports the UN and has never worn a “Blue Helmet” is he a chicken hawk?)
To: Pharmboy
I doubt the accuracy of the professor's work. My belief is that those with darker skin who earned higher didn't want to be patronized to by some idiot professor telling them how low on the social scale they are. I believe that those with higher personal dignity dismissed him outright, and threw his results off entirely.
The professor is a fraud. Unless he can quantify my supposition of his complete and total failure here he should be ridiculed and dismissed.
8 posted on
01/28/2007 5:15:58 AM PST by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
To: Pharmboy
"ASSOCIATED PRESS via NY Times" was as far as I got.
9 posted on
01/28/2007 5:15:59 AM PST by
outofsalt
("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
To: Pharmboy
This just makes sense. We're such a racist bunch. I know I won't go to a 7-11 if the Indians are darker. I like fair complexion to go with my BIg-Gulp. This guy has us all figured out. I guess we better go back to the super-secret evil (straight, white, and Christian) racist American enclave and formulate a new diabolical scheme.
12 posted on
01/28/2007 5:25:42 AM PST by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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13 posted on
01/28/2007 5:26:03 AM PST by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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The bias, she said, occurs in the United States... and what was left unsaid...
as well as the rest of the world I've travelled extensively and visited factories in Malaysia, Thailand, China, eastern and western Europe, Honduras and Nicaragua. I have co-workers who have been in a number of South American countries. The observation? Without fail, the lightest skin people are the bosses, the darkest skin people are mucking the sewage.
One merely need look at TV originating from any country. The talking heads, the actors, etc. almost exclusively lily white, even in countries where the people are quite brown or even dark black. There are exceptions, but they are exceptions, not the rule.
14 posted on
01/28/2007 5:27:25 AM PST by
Malsua
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This issue covers academia, anthropology, society and the media and therefore I thought I would ping this random non-ping list.
20 posted on
01/28/2007 5:44:28 AM PST by
Pharmboy
([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
To: Pharmboy
she said her analysis showed that the skin-color advantage was not based on preferential treatment for light-skinned people in their country of origin. The bias, she said, occurs in the United StatesI stopped reading right there.
She is industrial strength wrong on this point - out of ignorance, shoddy research, or simply a desire to do a hit piece on America.
Light skinned as always been preferable to dark in many other cultures. For a start, she can hop over the border and do some "research" in Mexico.
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There is an even larger disparity between "pigmentations" in the countries from which the immigrants come. You see very few Mexican soap opera star types sneaking across the border or lurking at home depot looking for work. Latin America is outsourcing their color problem to the USA.
To: Pharmboy
Finally, I understand why dark-skinned Oprah Winfrey is so poor.
27 posted on
01/28/2007 6:26:33 AM PST by
aculeus
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Well in that case, why are we letting dark complexioned people immigrate into our country?
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This is just like the old Garrit Morris SNL skit where they discussced the same issue.
These scientists were PAID to have the same result as a comedy skit.
30 posted on
01/28/2007 6:42:56 AM PST by
longtermmemmory
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since they make no claim of same jobs with different pay, this means it's nothing more than political masturbation.
32 posted on
01/28/2007 7:05:28 AM PST by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: Pharmboy
Although many cultures show a bias toward lighter skin, she said her analysis showed that the skin-color advantage was not based on preferential treatment for light-skinned people in their country of origin. The bias, she said, occurs in the United States. BS. Its unlikely any study found that because theyd have to verify their income in their home country first. This is typical NYT misreporting.
More likely, these people were always higher income earners since light skin is nearly universally valued. Any biological tendencies for that aside, the US is the one of the least prejudiced places in that regard.
33 posted on
01/28/2007 7:22:12 AM PST by
elfman2
(An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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Duh. Does anybody notice that successful black men invariably marry lighter-skinned wives? And even their daughters on television portrayals are lighter than their sons? Does anyone notice how astonishingly racist is Mexican society, where fair-skinned gigolo types like Vicente run the show?
Liberals are more racist because they think they've got a "pass."
35 posted on
01/28/2007 7:55:40 AM PST by
Mamzelle
To: Pharmboy
Other reasons for darker-skinned people to have lower incomes:
1) Culture does not encourage higher education.
2) Living in insulated communities.
3) Avoidance of integration.
4) Self segregation for religious reasons.
5) Lack of English language skills.
6) Cultural emphasis on non-intellectual forms of employment.
7) Arranged marriage.
8) Residency in poorer States.
To: Pharmboy
Did they factor in "command of English"? No.
I am loathe to give business to people with whom I cannot communicate. I give my business to those who can speak the language best.
39 posted on
01/28/2007 8:33:29 AM PST by
BunnySlippers
(SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
To: Pharmboy
Light-skinned immigrants in the United States make more money on average than those with darker complexions, and the chief reason appears to be discrimination, a researcher says.No, no racism here. Sounds like the "researcher" injected the "research" with his own racist beliefs.
42 posted on
01/28/2007 8:48:27 AM PST by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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