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Hillary/Giuliani: Serious About Race For President
WCBSTV.COM ^ | 27 JANUARY 2007 | AP

Posted on 01/27/2007 8:42:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

(CBS) NEW YORK -- After all the hinting hemming and hawing about whether they are really in the race Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani left no doubt in the minds of voters that they are serious about a presidential run in 2008.

"As a republican and I'm very, very optimistic that we're gonna turn this around and that we're gonna turn it around very, very quickly. Meaning this year, in time for 2008," said Giuliani-R , Former NYC Mayor at an engagement in New Hampshire.

And Senator Clinton confirmed her White House intentions in Iowa with her newly innovated slogan "I'm in it to win it."

"They're both in the race. Hillary has a much bigger organization set up. She's been raising money nationally longer," said political analyst Joseph Mercurio, about the man who was nicknamed America's Mayor after 9/11 and the senator who would be returning to the White House this time in the top job. "He's got a tremendous amount of name recognition nationally. He needs to set up a national organization before he's fully plunged into the race. But, undoubtedly he's running just as well as she is," he said.

So, what happens if it shakes out to be a Hillary versus Rudy battle for the white house in 08?

Mercurio says, "it would obviously good if one or the other of them won for New York City or the state how that plays in the rest of the country whether the New York image is a drag or not is a whole other conversation."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; giussolini; hitlery; rudyrino
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To: Spiff

Keyes for President is that you? Thanks for proving to anyone reading that your small wing of the Republican Party is one of the nastiest!


61 posted on 01/27/2007 9:50:17 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: PhiKapMom
Nah, Bush just dragged them down in Oklahoma too. He has coat tails after all.
62 posted on 01/27/2007 9:50:45 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

It's hard to fathom how you can say what you say about the unique gift that every individual is, and yet give a hardcore abortion supporting politician like Giuliani a tip of your hat.

Puzzling.


63 posted on 01/27/2007 9:50:58 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Any man who will alienate the right to life of a helpless little child will compromise away anything)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am pro-life...

I know you are. So is Mitt Romney.

64 posted on 01/27/2007 9:51:47 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: oceanview

It's tough. We have to fight MSM all the time. Remember how Mark Foley was a nightly fixture on the evening news every night up to election day and suddenly, no more Mark Foley stories. They served their purpose.


65 posted on 01/27/2007 9:52:16 PM PST by BW2221
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To: BW2221

Yeah, it's pretty damning that this court only has a couple of Dem justices, and yet still leans left.

And it comes from the sort of mushy, unprincipled thinking that we're seeing on FR on these threads these days.


66 posted on 01/27/2007 9:53:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Any man who will alienate the right to life of a helpless little child will compromise away anything)
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To: zarf
It's funny. I could comfortably vote for Duncan Hunter, Romney or Rudy (McCain is a looney).....whoever was nominated to run against Shrillary.

Nobody said you shouldn't. But a number of people, like you, need to check their calendars. We're in the PRIMARY ELECTION phase right now. We won't be into the General Election phase for well over a year. Save your arguments trying to get conservatives to vote for Rudy against Hillary until WHEN AND IF THAT IS THE CHOICE. Until then, making such an argument is just plain stupid.

67 posted on 01/27/2007 9:53:50 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: zarf
"Hillary as president on the other hand, will send up openly pro-Roe judges - and they will ALL be confirmed.."

Kind of like Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush 41 did?
68 posted on 01/27/2007 9:54:03 PM PST by BW2221
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To: EternalVigilance

What's that Scripture about "consciences being seared as with a hot iron"?


69 posted on 01/27/2007 9:54:32 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher

Thanks for debunking this silly "it's the conservatives' fault" nonsense.


70 posted on 01/27/2007 9:55:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Any man who will alienate the right to life of a helpless little child will compromise away anything)
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To: Spiff
In all fairness, I've never seen PKM claim to be a conservative - just a Republican and a Sooners fan.
71 posted on 01/27/2007 9:55:45 PM PST by BW2221
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To: EternalVigilance

"This is one of the despicable new tactics of the Rudy McRomniacs. I've seen it trotted out several times today. If you don't support a liberal, conservatism will die. If you don't support Rudy McRomney, you support Hillary, and hate our troops".

The statement is both false and true.

Nobody is saying you have to support Rudy now. You can support anyone you like until the party nominates a candidate. Hopefully for you, it will be your guy.

However, if it is Rudy, you have an obligation to support him in order to prevent this country from suffering a humiliating defeat in the War on Terror under President Psycho Whore.

I am pro life and anti gay marriage but I know that if I don't vote for whoever the Republican nominee is, Hillary will be elected and that would be a tragedy for America.
And I would be to blame.

Rudy would also nominate strict constructionists to the SCOTUS and that is much more important than his personal opinions.

Just keep in mind which person would make a better Commander in Chief.

Why is this so hard for seemingly intelligent people to understand?


72 posted on 01/27/2007 9:55:58 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: BW2221

we don't litmus test our picks. and that's OK, because the litmus test ones couldn't get confirmed anyway. so the best any republican president does, is screen and select based on judicial philosophy. it's all we've got.

If Rudy does run, I hope he speaks frankly about this issue. because that's his only chance to salvage any position amongst social conservative, a careful explanation about the true facts behind judicial picks. he has to be able to get up there and say "my personal beliefs on abortion, won't be litmus tested into my judicial appointments".


73 posted on 01/27/2007 9:56:04 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Spiff
Nobody said you shouldn't. But a number of people, like you, need to check their calendars. We're in the PRIMARY ELECTION phase right now. We won't be into the General Election phase for well over a year. Save your arguments trying to get conservatives to vote for Rudy against Hillary until WHEN AND IF THAT IS THE CHOICE. Until then, making such an argument is just plain stupid dishonest.

I obviously give "zarf" more credit than you do...

74 posted on 01/27/2007 9:56:14 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher
"The only reason we won in 2004 was the Swiftboat Vets. Karl Rove was and is an idiot."

The fact that the Democrats nominated an unlikable moron helped too!
75 posted on 01/27/2007 9:57:24 PM PST by BW2221
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To: streetpreacher
Yeah. It's getting worse and worse. Of course, the Lord said that would be the case. Oh well, in the end, He, and we, win. All we have to do is stay faithful.

“Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God.” - George Washington

76 posted on 01/27/2007 9:57:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Any man who will alienate the right to life of a helpless little child will compromise away anything)
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To: Spiff
Very well stated!
77 posted on 01/27/2007 9:58:00 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Can I vote for you?


78 posted on 01/27/2007 9:58:07 PM PST by TNLawyer (Feminazis the world over can shut up now!)
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To: Doninnj
Nobody is saying you have to support Rudy now. You can support anyone you like until the party nominates a candidate.

Heil Hitler?

80 posted on 01/27/2007 10:01:24 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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