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Charles Darwin's unfunny joke
World Net Daily ^ | jan 27, 2007 | Pat Boone

Posted on 01/27/2007 4:40:50 PM PST by balch3

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To: balch3
In one of his many excellent and substantive mailings, D. James Kennedy drew my attention to Tom DeRosa, who grew up Catholic in Brooklyn and spent his high-school years at a Catholic seminary. He was voted "Best Seminarian" in 1964, but one year later, instead of taking vows to enter the priesthood, he became an atheist.

...after 13 years as a respected public-school science teacher, he experienced a spiritual awakening that completely changed his perception of existence – and science. He's now founder and president of the Creation Studies Institute and author of "Evidence for Creation: Intelligent Answers for Open Minds."

Did his IQ leak out his ears? Did he cease being a scientist? Far from it; he became a real scientist, an honest seeker after truth who could look at facts without a predisposed belief and actually see the obvious all around us.

As a real scientist, he looked again at what he'd gullibly accepted in college. And, examining the prevalent claim that life "evolved" from molecule to man by a series of biological baby steps, tiny mutations over millions of years, he realized there is no historical evidence for that claim. He writes, "Millions upon millions of fossils have been collected to date, but there is no evidence of transition fossils, that is, fossils of organisms in an intermediate stage of development between steps on the evolutionary ladder."

I looked on the website of the to see what type of "science" they advocate. Here is the Creation Studies Institute Mission Statement.

Mission

We believe that God has called this ministry to serve the church community, the general public and the academic community with the purpose of promoting the biblical foundation of creation so that ultimately, the lost will be led to their Creator and Christians will become stronger in their faith.

Vision

Our vision is to disseminate information that supports the origins of man and the universe as stated in the literal interpretation of the Genesis account by equipping Christians, the general public and the scientific community through exemplary educational programs, exciting creation field expeditions, hands-on creation workshops, seminars, and an on-campus interactive creation science center and museum.

Goal

Our primary goal is to disseminate information that supports the origins of man and the universe as stated in the literal interpretation of the Genesis account. It is our desire to use this information to establish a specialized program in Creation Studies, incorporating several courses of training for future church leaders.

Ministry Motto

"Reaching the World with the Truths of Creation"

It is our heart’s desire as a ministry, to be used as a tool for equipping the believer with the knowledge needed to refute the lies of evolution. We believe that through this knowledge, the believer’s faith is affirmed in such a way as to cause them to confidently share with others, the truth of Creation as told in the Bible.

Sorry, Pat, but you got fooled. The only science there is creation "science."

Its pretty similar to what the Creation Research Society and the Institute for Creation Research have for their "science."

All three of these groups are doing pure apologetics, not science.

41 posted on 01/27/2007 5:28:53 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: All
Theory? Law? Hypothesis?

Confused?

I posted a list of scientific definitions earlier today here.

42 posted on 01/27/2007 5:32:48 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: freespirited
Good, So have I.

I asked the same question on another Darwin thread and only one other person said "they had read it".
43 posted on 01/27/2007 5:33:08 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: gcruse
If a theory is something scientifically proven what is theoretical about it? You may be comfusing 'theory' with 'law.'

Are there any laws? Pretty much everything is a theory. Newtons theory of gravity, Einsteins theories, Bohrs theories, Darwins theories, etc.

44 posted on 01/27/2007 5:35:37 PM PST by LeGrande
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To: balch3
Francis S Collins, The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief

Looking at this from the standpoint of genetics is compelling. His arguments moved me from about 75 to 85%. And I'm a believer.

45 posted on 01/27/2007 5:35:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: LeGrande

Godwin's Law, for sure.


46 posted on 01/27/2007 5:38:28 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: LeGrande

Laws are almost always proven false but kept around because they are still useful for some ranges of values. e.g. Newtons laws of motion are good as long as V < < C (speeds are much less then the speed of light).

I bet that explanation didn't help a bit.

Nothing is ever proven in science.


47 posted on 01/27/2007 5:40:26 PM PST by Dinsdale
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Pat, shutup, and don't sing either, k ?


48 posted on 01/27/2007 5:48:20 PM PST by tomkat
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To: balch3

yuppers


49 posted on 01/27/2007 6:08:04 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Abcdefg

So is "theory of gravity", and "theory of relativity", etc. The scientific meaning of the word "theory" does not mean
what you think it means.


50 posted on 01/27/2007 6:08:13 PM PST by WingBolt
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To: Abcdefg
Yes, but not all theories have equal validity.

But first off, your saying "it's a theory" is meaningless then...

51 posted on 01/27/2007 6:08:14 PM PST by WingBolt
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To: balch3
it's all part of the same thing, meant to weaken our Constitutional society.

This sounds like Dr.Strangelove, the communist subversion of our precious bodily fluids. What in the world does Darwin have to do with the Constitution???

52 posted on 01/27/2007 6:08:14 PM PST by WingBolt
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To: onedoug

Francis Collins does not reject evolution...


53 posted on 01/27/2007 6:08:17 PM PST by WingBolt
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To: gcruse
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.  2000.
 
hypothesis
 
SYLLABICATION: hy·poth·e·sis
PRONUNCIATION:   h-pth-ss
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. hy·poth·e·ses (-sz)
1. A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation. 2. Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption. 3. The antecedent of a conditional statement.
 
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.  2000.
 
theory
 
SYLLABICATION: the·o·ry
PRONUNCIATION:   th-r, thîr
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. the·o·ries
1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. 2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory. 3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics. 4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory. 5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime. 6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

A theory, in science, is a hypothesis that has been verified or proven.
 
Long misuse of these terms has lead to great confusion. Newton's "theory" of gravity is correct. Evolutionary "theory" is incorrect. Evolution is a hypothesis, but not a scientific one. The criteria of science are, repeatability, predictability, non-contradiction, and falsifiability. Evolution cannot meet any of these criteria. (It contradicts the long established theory so important to medicine that there cannot be spontaneous generation of life, for example.)
 
Hank

54 posted on 01/27/2007 6:16:47 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: balch3

Its good to see that conservative entertainers are just as stupid as liberal entertainers.

Hey Pat, shut up and sing.


55 posted on 01/27/2007 6:17:49 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: Hank Kerchief

There's the old canard again - evolution is about the DEVELOPMENT of life, not the ORIGIN.

Nice try, but you'll have to do a little better.


56 posted on 01/27/2007 6:19:29 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Coyoteman
Here we go again, the ignorance parade has started....


57 posted on 01/27/2007 6:21:56 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: balch3

When I want a singer who can cover black R & B songs badly and without attribution, I'll turn to Pat Boone. But when I want a cogent analysis of Darwinian evolution, I'll turn to someone with a little more expertise in the field.


58 posted on 01/27/2007 6:23:30 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Theories are not fact/s. Teaching them as thus does a great epistemological disservice to creative thinking and research.
59 posted on 01/27/2007 6:24:37 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Hank Kerchief

"A theory, in science, is a hypothesis that has been verified or proven."

Take another look at definition 6 --

"An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture."

The only place I could find the word 'proven' was in your definition of the word.


60 posted on 01/27/2007 6:25:01 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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