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School officials try to unravel report of beating
Many at Guilford College unsure of what really occurred
By Dan Galindo
JOURNAL REPORTER
GREENSBORO
Saturday, January 27, 2007

All day yesterday, Aaron Fetrow, the dean of campus life at Guilford College, took calls from media outlets big and small, drawn to cover a fight among students.

What brought calls from CNN, The New York Times and local media are the seemingly explosive allegations of racial epithets that were said to have been used by football players in a fight with three Palestinian students.

But those allegations, like nearly everything about the incident last weekend, is hotly disputed.

The parents of some of the football players say that their sons were not the aggressors and that they are being tried in the media by people who don't know the facts. Greensboro police and the FBI have yet to even interview three Palestinian students who said they were attacked.

In short, what might be best known about the fight is that there are many unknowns.

The result is a campus on which some students are in an uproar, walking out of class and demanding that the situation be labeled a hate crime. Others are simply confused.

"I feel like it's complicated, and I really don't know how to respond to it," Jesse Freedman, a freshman, said yesterday.

"No. 1, there's 16,000 different stories about what happened," said James Cliff, a senior.

Cliff said that the reactions of some students were a bit extreme.

"Everybody just kind of freaked out," Cliff said.

After compiling statements from about 25 people who were witnesses or were involved in the fight, Guilford College officials have given a brief account of what happened:

About 12:30 a.m. Saturday, a fight broke out in the courtyard of Bryan Hall. The college said that it lasted less than five minutes and involved possible "hate speech during and after the incident."

The participants knew each other and were residence-hall neighbors, and at least a few of them had been drinking, the school said. Everyone involved declined medical treatment after the fight, but then some saw doctors later in the day.

"Almost everyone who is characterizing the event was not there and is merely repeating, and may be distorting, what others have told them," the school said.

Greensboro police said yesterday that the first step for investigators in such a case is to talk to the possible victims, but the Palestinian students have rescheduled two appointments with investigators.

WGHP/FOX8 reported that the students' attorney, Seth Cohen, said at a news conference yesterday that that wasn't the case. The students will meet with both the FBI and Greensboro police next week, he said.

On Sunday, a magistrate issued charges of ethnic intimidation and assault and battery, based on the testimony of the Palestinian students.

Police have arrested Michael Six of Clemmons; Michael Bates of Reidsville; Christopher Barnette of Semora; Jonathan Blake Underwood of Clinton, S.C.; and Jazz Favors of Alpharetta, Ga.

All five are out on bond.

Reached yesterday afternoon, Underwood said that he was on his way to meet with his attorney and would not comment. The other four players also would not comment or did not return phone messages.

The Palestinian students referred questions to Cohen.

According to WGHP/FOX8, Cohen said that the fight left his clients with concussions, bruises and scratches.

Fetrow, the dean of campus life, said his office was working to sort out about 25 eyewitness accounts of that night and to see if anyone at the college could reach a conclusion about what really happened.

"Finally, we couldn't," he said. "Because if we took a stance, or if we said something one way or the other, it could possibly indict in the court of public opinion. And we can't have a process like that."

Five students, including the three Palestinian students, have been called before the college's judicial board for possible violations of the campus code of conduct. No date for a hearing has been set. Punishments could range from community service to dismissal from the school.

Some students have called on the school to change its contention that there was possible "hate speech" by the attackers and instead label the incident a hate crime.

That's a powerful term in public debates - one that needs to be used carefully, said Frederick Lawrence, the dean of George Washington University's law school in Washington and an expert on hate crimes.

Hate-crime laws exist in nearly all states and often can add to the length of a sentence if prosecutors can show that the crime was motivated by bias.

Hate crimes are chronically underreported, with definitions differing among law-enforcement agencies and a tendency by many victims to fear reporting them, Lawrence said. From the statistics that are available, imperfect as they are, recent years have seen an increase in reported hate crimes against people of Middle-Eastern descent, said Jack Levin, a professor at Northeastern University in Boston.

"There's no question about it: Sept. 11 made us very suspicious of one another," he said.

Greensboro police reported four incidents motivated by racial or ethnic bias to the FBI for 2005, the most recent year that the FBI has published statistics.

Winston-Salem police reported no hate-crime incidents in data sent to the FBI, even although police did file an ethnic- intimidation charge. The discrepancy may be because Winston-Salem police call it an incident only when they determine that it was wholly or substantially motivated by bias.

The idea of a hate crime is hotly disputed among some legal scholars, some of whom say that the laws are ineffective and wrong-headed. Critics often argue that hate crimes could lead to punishing people for their opinions, which, unpleasant though they may be, should be protected by the First Amendment.

"There was no problem in a lack of adequate sentencing that cried out for a solution," said James Jacobs, a professor at New York University's law school. "Instead of all progressive and right-thinking people condemning crime, we now turn crime into something we can fight about - about whether it is a hate crime or isn't a hate crime," Jacobs said.

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1 posted on 01/26/2007 10:26:54 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Given the Palestinian people's culture of peace and commitment to non-violence, I'm going to assume the football players are guilty.


2 posted on 01/26/2007 10:32:32 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Libloather
Palestinians? Why are are they in the US?

Ethnic intimidation! Hate Speech! More likely the football players kicked their ass and they played the race card.

4 posted on 01/26/2007 10:44:40 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Libloather

According to the ROP, it's ok for the pallies to lie, if it's only infidels whom they're lying about. This should be thrown out, if that's all the evidence they have.

As far as the term "hate crime," it's obscene to prosecute someone for their opinions. Hello, thought police.

Also, did anyone notice that the pallies got a Jewish lawyer? Well, I'm sure it's just another victory for religious tolerance within the ROP./sarc


5 posted on 01/26/2007 10:50:30 PM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Libloather

To these five football players I say: Stop beating up Palestinians and start beating up liberals.


6 posted on 01/26/2007 11:01:02 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Libloather

The school officials are hedging. Given that this is a Quaker school, their failure to come right out with a strident statement of support for the aggrieved Palis is eloquent in its silence.
It is either a flying pig moment or they know something the rest of us don't.


7 posted on 01/26/2007 11:05:44 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: Libloather

Another college, another sports team, more police charges filed, it must be North Carolina!!


9 posted on 01/26/2007 11:42:17 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Libloather
Palestinians?.... are they muzzies? If they are then it was a massacare,maybe even genocide,BUT if they were only christian palestinians then it was a case of mistaken identity, and no big deal, charges dropped.
10 posted on 01/27/2007 3:58:49 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Conservative and Republican are not synonymous.)
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To: Libloather

It sounds to me like muslims are deliberately inciting actions and incidents and then hysterically get big bucks lawyers to fan the flames.


11 posted on 01/27/2007 4:28:58 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: Libloather
Five players face charges of assault and ethnic intimidation

What exactly is ethnic intimidation?

13 posted on 01/27/2007 5:04:56 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Libloather
Let's see if I understand this correctly. The football players hired the three Palestinians as strippers and now the Palestinians are claiming they were assaulted.

I say the school should expel the players, fire the coach, and cancel the football program at Guilford College. And start making up some "Wanted" posters.

17 posted on 01/27/2007 8:22:15 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Libloather

Little doubt these "palestinian" student-terrorists are here on the American taxpayer's buck. Since the so called state of palistine is totally a welfare state. It's sole major export product is terrorism. Does anyone know of another MAJOR product it produces for export?

Seems to me it relies on the charity of the EU and the US to sustain itself. So yea, odds are these pali student future if not current terrorists are here on our dime, and that's why the fbi was called in to protect the govts "investment" in terrorism.


18 posted on 01/27/2007 9:05:17 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Where have all the patriots gone?)
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To: Libloather

"Greensboro police said yesterday that the first step for investigators in such a case is to talk to the possible victims, but the Palestinian students have rescheduled two appointments with investigators."

It take time to create corroborating stories.


24 posted on 01/29/2007 4:10:46 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (A Muslim soldier can never be loyal to a non-Muslim commander.)
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