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Giuliani a tough conservative sell
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/07 | Liz Sidoti - ap

Posted on 01/25/2007 8:32:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani's star has hardly dimmed in the five years since terrorists attacked his city on Sept. 11, 2001, and he became a national hero _ the face of U.S. resolve at a time of tragedy.

The Republican dubbed "America's Mayor" hopes to ride that celebrity and his record at City Hall to the White House by emphasizing his leadership skills and embracing the strong-on-security, limited-government tenets of the GOP.

"If he can handle the scrutiny, and if events break his way, sure, he can win," said Fred Siegel, who wrote a Giuliani biography, "The Prince of the City."

Giuliani's quest to capture his party's presidential nomination won't be easy.

He's a moderate Republican from New York City, on the wrong side of social issues in the eyes of hard-core conservatives who are a crucial voting bloc in the primaries. His mayoral tenure was marked by criticism of an overzealous police force. He's linked to the city's scandal-plagued ex-police chief Bernard Kerik. His thicket of business interests could pose conflicts. He's been divorced twice.

"I sure have strengths and weaknesses," Giuliani said recently. "I think that sort of puts me in the same category as just about everybody else that's running. Are my strengths greater or my weaknesses worse? I don't know. You have to sort of examine that. That won't be the issue."

His challenge will be to remind voters of his take-charge attitude on Sept. 11 and his two-term mayoral reign, at the same time his main rivals _ Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney _ no doubt will try to exploit his background and record. For now, both are trying to gauge how much of a threat he may be.

Giuliani, who formed a presidential exploratory committee last year, is betting that the Republican rank-and-file will look past his liabilities. His aides dismiss skeptics who say he has too many flaws to win over primary voters a year from now.

"I believe they'll look at the picture as a whole," said Tony Carbonetti, Giuliani's longtime political adviser. "This (New York) was an unmanageable city, and I think what people want today is a manager, someone to lead in difficult times and to lead in not-difficult times.

"We're going to continue to tell that story," he said.

Before Sept. 11, Giuliani was known as the hard-charging prosecutor-turned-politician who cleaned up Times Square, led the city out of fiscal despair and brought Republican rule back to the liberal mecca.

Giuliani, of course, made enemies in the process, but on Sept. 11 even his chronic critics were muted when he took charge amid the rubble of the World Trade Center's twin towers. To many, he became a picture of strength, a reminder of the resilience of the American spirit.

"He has a connection to that. He is unique. On the other hand you look at the politics and you say this is a problem," said Alex Vogel, a Republican strategist in Washington who is not affiliated with any presidential candidate.

"The question is: Can you win a Republican primary a different way? History keeps saying no. But history has never presented us with someone whose favorability numbers are as high as Rudy's."

Indeed, national polls have consistently shown him leading for the GOP nomination, and early surveys in key states show him ahead or competitive. He travels to one important state, New Hampshire, this weekend where he will give the keynote address at the state GOP's annual meeting.

For all the hype since 2001, Giuliani didn't start preparing for a presidential run in earnest until after November's elections. Thus, he has lagged behind McCain and Romney in courting fundraisers, setting up a national organization and hiring ground operatives in key states, although he has made progress on all fronts recently.

Giuliani's aides insist they're making strides toward filling out his campaign. They say he can raise the $80 million to $100 million necessary this year for a serious run. Name recognition, obviously, isn't an issue.

Neither, his supporters argue, is likability. They say he appeals to people across the political spectrum and in every region of the country, meaning he could expand the general election playing field. That, his backers say, makes him the Republican most likely to beat the presumptive Democratic front-runner, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

Perhaps.

But first he has to capture the GOP nomination _ and the big question is whether he can win over enough Republicans in states like Iowa and South Carolina, among the first nominating contests where voters are solid conservatives and could be turned off by his stance on social issues.

"Giuliani is going to have to convince people that he's more conservative than his record otherwise would suggest," said Peverill Squire, who teaches politics at the University of Iowa.

The former mayor's support for abortion rights, gay rights and gun control conflict with the hard-line positions of the GOP's right. His supporters say he's not as liberal on those issues as he's made out to be. Still, he's from New York _ and that alone rankles the party's conservative wing.

Despite that, Giuliani's backers contend _ and some Republican strategists agree _ that he could get support from fiscal conservatives because of his record of cutting taxes, curbing spending and promoting small government, particularly now when the base is smarting over the soaring federal deficit under Republicans.

And, with the country still at war, his link to Sept. 11 _ the brand of a strong leader _ could trump the base's concerns about his background and stand on social issues.

"Giuliani's national security credentials will allow him to span ideological divides in the Republican Party and win conservative votes," said Greg Strimple, a GOP strategist in New York who is neutral in the race.

Unknown is whether Giuliani can woo enough of those base Republican voters to win the nomination and, if not, whether he can make up the difference by attracting independents and Democrats.

"His opening could come if people really think that somebody like Hillary is running away with it, and if there's a perception that only Giuliani can beat her," said John Truscott, an unaffiliated Republican strategist in Michigan.

Another factor that could help Giuliani is how the primary calendar shakes out.

New Hampshire and Michigan hold early contests, and New Jersey, California, Illinois, Florida and other states viewed as more hospitable to a moderate may schedule their votes earlier in the year, perhaps lessening the importance of a strong showing for Giuliani in Iowa and South Carolina.

For all the obstacles, even folks with ties to Giuliani's opponents can't deny that the New Yorker has a shot.

Said Ken Khachigian of California, who served as a strategist for President Reagan and was with McCain in 2000: "I would never sell Giuliani short."


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To: FairOpinion

Newt has high media generated negatives from his time as speaker - and the Dems are essentially going to run a candidate who is a "celebrity", not a political figure.


41 posted on 01/25/2007 8:57:34 PM PST by oceanview
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To: FairOpinion
As I said before NO REAL CONSERVATIVE could possibly prefer Hillary. You must really hate America to wish Hillary upon us. You have NO right to call yourself a conservative.

I'm not defending the guy that said he'd prefer Hillary. But, then again, both Hillary and Rudy are New York liberals and they only differ on precious few issues. NO REAL CONSERVATIVE could possibly support pro-abortion, gun-grabbing, pro-radical gay agenda, serial adulterer, big government liberal Rudy Giuliani. Rudy is the MOST LIBERAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER and by supporting him in the PRIMARY election you sacrifice any claim to being a conservative.

42 posted on 01/25/2007 8:57:36 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: onyx
And there you have it. He is very well liked.

And that is huge! Some people don't even have name recognition - and of the few who do - there is the likeability factor - with that smile, optimism, and excellent communications skills - it hard not to like him - even if you don't agree with everything he says or does.

43 posted on 01/25/2007 8:58:22 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: NormsRevenge

Note to conservatives. AP is the one trashing Rudy. They don't want conservatives to vote for him because they know he's the best chance we've got to take the White House. This is just like when the Drive-by media did everything they could to keep conservatives home this past November.


44 posted on 01/25/2007 8:58:34 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
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To: weegee
"But Carter showed us how much damage can be done in 4 years as President."

After Carter, we had Republican Presidential leadership for 18 of 26 years. Let me rephrase that: we had eight years of Reagan Presidential leadership and ten years of the Bushes.
45 posted on 01/25/2007 8:59:36 PM PST by BW2221
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To: SierraWasp

Somebody show me a Reagan in this mix and none of us will be discussing this any further. The fact that we are debating the issue reveals that the ideal just isn't out there right now.

I would vote for Pee Wee Herman if Hillary was the other choice.


46 posted on 01/25/2007 8:59:45 PM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: BunnySlippers

That one made me burst out laughing! You are AWESOME!


47 posted on 01/25/2007 9:00:44 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: Dreagon

48 posted on 01/25/2007 9:01:19 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Spiff

Wow, devestating info. Replace the pic to the one in drag and print the fliers now!


49 posted on 01/25/2007 9:01:45 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: FairOpinion

LOL at anybody who supports Guiliani accusing anybody else of not being "a real conservative".

Guiliani - Hillary = not a dimes worth of difference.


50 posted on 01/25/2007 9:02:42 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: Afronaut

So was OJSimpson, but like Rosie garbage mouth, he isn't seeking the GOP nomination either, so your point is.....?


51 posted on 01/25/2007 9:03:55 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: aynrandfreak

Rudy will not be the nominee so I won't have to worry about not voting for him. I also predict Hillary will not get nominated, either, so all this argueing back and forth won't matter.


52 posted on 01/25/2007 9:04:05 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: kinoxi

As I posted before my daughter's high school football team dressed up as women during homecoming to compete for Miss BHS. Guess that disqualifies them from running for office.

He did it for charity. I have seen it before and will see it again and I think it is funny that some people take it seriously and try to use it against him. That is so lame.


53 posted on 01/25/2007 9:04:08 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: FairOpinion

He also joined Hillary on healthcare recently! :)


54 posted on 01/25/2007 9:04:42 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: icwhatudo

How Perty.

55 posted on 01/25/2007 9:05:47 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Sunsong

We have all have one vote. You'd think that posters here would know by now that we're all capable of making our own choices without their input.


56 posted on 01/25/2007 9:05:57 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: aynrandfreak

Exactly! Problem is some conservatives did stay home!


57 posted on 01/25/2007 9:05:59 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: prov1813man

I'll go along with your first paragraph, but not you second! It is just too far fetched to consider...


58 posted on 01/25/2007 9:06:07 PM PST by SierraWasp (Wasn't one "Co-Presidency" enough? Will we now have to see who SHE "does" in the oval office???!!!)
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To: PhiKapMom
He did it for charity. I have seen it before and will see it again and I think it is funny that some people take it seriously and try to use it against him. That is so lame.

I could care less how he dresses. Not reading my posts 'is so lame'.
59 posted on 01/25/2007 9:06:33 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: onyx

Me three and that includes McCain!


60 posted on 01/25/2007 9:07:20 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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