Posted on 01/24/2007 5:10:23 PM PST by Gritty
One of the most entertaining opportunities that will emerge in 2007 will be using Barack Obama to fight Islamofascism. He is the product of a black Moslem from Kenya, Barrack Hussein Obama, and a white atheist from Kansas, Shirley Ann Dunham, who met at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu. That is why his middle name is the same as Saddam’s: Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. His first name is taken from the Islamic term in Arabic for “blessed,” baraka, used in the Koran.
His father deserted the family when Barack Jr. was two and returned to Kenya. His mother then married another Moslem studying at UH, Lolo Soetoro from Indonesia. He moved with his mother and stepfather to Jakarta when he was six, where he attended a Moslem medressa (religious school). That makes him a Moslem. There is no mention of this in the chapter of his book, The Audacity of Hope, where he discusses his religion, My Spiritual Journey (reprinted in Time Magazine). Obama claims he is a Christian, that he and his wife Michelle are members of the United Church of Christ.
The opportunity in this is not accusing him of being a “closet Moslem.” It requires taking him at his word that he has become a Christian — for that means he is an apostate. There is no dispute among either ancient or modern Moslem scholars that under Islamic law, a murtadd, “one who turns his back on Islam,” an apostate, must be put to death. Irtidad, apostasy, is committing treason against God, and traitors deserve to be killed.
Should Obama deny he ever was a Moslem, it will compound the problem in the eyes of Moslems. He was born of a Moslem father, raised by a Moslem stepfather, and received his first education at a Moslem school. That he subsequently went to a Catholic school in Jakarta before living with his mother’s parents back in Honolulu makes no difference. In the eyes of Moslems, he originally was a Moslem. How can he not be in those eyes, with a Koranic first name and his middle name that of the grandson of Mohammed? For him to become a Christian means he is, for them, a murtadd, an apostate.
Which provides the perfect opportunity for an enterprising journalist to ask him at a press conference if he is: 1. Afraid of Moslem assassination attempts as punishment for being in Islamic eyes an apostate? 2. Willing to publicly call upon all Moslems around the world to renounce such punishment and declare instead that Moslems are fully free to convert to another religion?
The odds are high that he will answer no to the first and yes to the second. As an oily politician, he will try to squirm out of a clear definitive yes with no wiggle room. But it should not be difficult for a smart journalist to get him to agree without reservation that Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states...
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion. This right includes freedom to change his religion or belief.
...applies to Muslims
Once Obama condemns the Moslem tradition of death for apostasy, then he can be asked:
The Koran famously quotes Allah as saying in chapter (sura) 2, verse 256 that there should be ‘no compulsion in religion.' Yet numerous sayings of Mohammed known as hadith which form the basis of Islamic Sharia law quote Mohammed as saying ‘If a Moslem discards his religion, kill him.' So are you telling Moslems that Allah was right but Mohammed was misquoted, and their Sharia law tradition on apostasy is wrong?
You can see how much fun there is to be had with this. Again, the key is taking Obama at his word that he is a Christian and not secretly a Moslem. No accusations necessary. The point is that Moslems view him as first a Moslem, not that he does. If done right with honest, straightforward, and persistent questioning Obama can serve as a quite useful anti-islamofascist tool.
Moslems will be infuriated with him for embarrassing them, Americans will tell themselves never to vote for someone with Hussein in their name to be their president — and it just might get a number of influential Moslems to abandon an important part of Islamic law. This is going to happen to Obama this year. And not only that. For he’ll then be asked if he will support the efforts of Christian missionaries in Islamic countries to peacefully convert Moslems to Christianity.
Yep, might as well put this guy to good use.
I wondered when the apostasy issue would come up and where it would go.
I thought CNN said this story was untrue.
Whatever the whole story the men who went after his mother were awful hard up.
"Obama claims he is a Christian, that he and his wife Michelle are members of the United Church of Christ."
Obama may well have OTHERS saying he is a Christian, but on his Senate website one is given the opportunity to ponder "attends" vs "Membership".......what he has written on the website is probably factually correct.....but then if you know what "taqiyya" is to and for a Muslim addressing infidels, this is easy enough to understand.....
"Obama is especially proud of being a husband and father of two daughters, Malia, 8 and Sasha, 4. Obama and his wife, Michelle, married in 1992 and live on Chicago ’s South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ."
http://obama.senate.gov/about/
Interesting!
Rusty sword bump
The part about Obama being educated in a madrassa is reportedly false.
Conservatives do not appeal to mainstream America when they raise stupid contorted arguments like this. Now I'll sit and wait while all the "experts" on the Koran tell me this whole thing is undeniable.
Right.
So, who ya gonna believe,... CNN or your own lyin' eyes?
And this is the only question that needs to be asked: Do you renounce the religion of Islam? No other question needs to be answered. Either "yes" or "no". End of story.
Freeper expatguy has done real deal gumshoe journalism in the neighborhood of Obama's childhood to find out the truth,
read about it here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1772690/posts
and his blog:
http://laotze.blogspot.com/
In short, Obama did NOT attend a madrassa, but a government school, which does have required religious education, but it was not a privately run Madrassa within a mosque as has been reported elsewhere.
Muslims undercover, like the 9/11 hijackers, don't have to behave like normal muslims if it helps them blend in with their enemies. At least this was reported after 9/11. They drank partied with women etc.
Obama also attended a Catholic school while in Indonesia. How come nobody is claiming that means he is a Catholic?
OK. Assume this part is not entirely accurate, and he went to a Muslim government school instead of a Saudi backed Muslim school...
What about the rest of the article that doesn't deal with his specific Muslim schooling in his childhood years? There's more here besides that point.
Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro"
School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen born in Honolulu, Hawaii on 4 August 1961. Barry's religion was listed as Islam.
School documents further record Barry's father as "L Soetoro Ma" who worked as an official of the Director General's office in the TNI
Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya.
http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/tracking-down-obama-in-indonesia-part-3.html
One person that can be trusted is Dr. Jack Wheeler, author of the Reagan Doctrine and a true conservative.
Delicious! Like an insect caught in a web...
If he has Muslim leanings I could see him attending the Unitarian Churches, but not the United Church of Christ.
An earlier poster wanted to quibble over the use of attend versus being a member. In my experience, attend is a common use to express the church to which you belong.
The part about Obama being educated in a madrassa is reportedly false."
Then the time gap in his "life timeline" needs to be appropriately filled in.
All of us can fill in everything from birth to today. I can. You can. All Freepers can. Most all Americans can. A gap in time of approximately 4 years is nothing to overlook.
Born a Muslim, always a Muslim, or then a target for death from the radicals for changing "religions". Which is it?????
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