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The "Greed" Fallacy (Thomas Sowell)
Townhall.com ^ | January 23, 2007 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 01/22/2007 9:16:03 PM PST by jazusamo

In an era when our media and even our education system exalt emotions, while ignoring facts and logic, perhaps we should not be surprised that so many people explain economics by "greed."

Today there are adults -- including educated adults -- who explain multimillion-dollar corporate executives' salaries as being due to "greed."

Think about it: I could become so greedy that I wanted a fortune twice the size of Bill Gates' -- but this greed would not increase my income by one cent.

If you want to explain why some people have astronomical incomes, it cannot be simply because of their own desires -- whether "greedy" or not -- but because of what other people are willing to pay them.

The real question, then, is: Why do other people choose to pay corporate executives so much?

One popular explanation is that executive salaries are set by boards of directors who are spending the stockholders' money and do not care that they are overpaying a CEO, who may be the one responsible for putting them on the board of directors in the first place.

It makes a neat picture and may even be true in some cases. What deals a body blow to this theory, however, is that CEO compensation is even higher in corporations owned by a few giant investment firms, as distinguished from corporations owned by thousands of individual stockholders.

In other words, it is precisely where people are spending their own money and have financial expertise that they bid highest for CEOs. It is precisely where people most fully understand the difference that the right CEO can make in a corporation's profitability that they are willing to bid what it takes to get the executive they want.

If people who are capable of being outstanding executives were a dime a dozen, nobody would pay eleven cents a dozen for them.

Many observers who say that they cannot understand how anyone can be worth $100 million a year do not realize that it is not necessary that they understand it, since it is not their money.

All of us have thousands of things happening around us that we do not understand. We use computers all the time but most of us could not build a computer if our life depended on it -- and those few individuals who could probably couldn't grow orchids or train horses.

In short, we all have grossly inadequate knowledge in other people's specialties.

The idea that everything must "justify itself before the bar of reason" goes back at least as far as the 18th century. But that just makes it a candidate for the longest-running fallacy in the world.

Given the high degree of specialization in a modern economy, demanding that everything "justify itself before the bar of reason" means demanding that people who know what they are doing must be subject to the veto of people who don't have a clue about the decisions that they are second-guessing.

It means demanding that ignorance override knowledge.

The ignorant are not just some separate group of people. As Will Rogers said, everybody is ignorant, but just about different things.

Should computer experts tell brain surgeons how to do their job? Or horse trainers tell either of them what to do?

One of the reasons why central planning sounds so good, but has failed so badly that even socialist and communist governments finally abandoned the idea by the end of the 20th century, is that nobody knows enough to second guess everybody else.

Every time oil prices shoot up, there are cries of "greed" and demands by politicians for an investigation of collusion by Big Oil. There have been more than a dozen investigations of oil companies over the years, and none of them has turned up the collusion that is supposed to be responsible for high gas prices.

Now that oil prices have dropped big time, does that mean that oil companies have lost their "greed"? Or could it all be supply and demand -- a cause and effect explanation that seems to be harder for some people to understand than emotions like "greed"?

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute and author of Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ceos; economics; sowell; thomassowell; unions
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To: jazusamo
"...demanding that everything "justify itself before the bar of reason" means demanding that people who know what they are doing must be subject to the veto of people who don't have a clue about the decisions that they are second-guessing."

Close - the original maxim was sound, but what has happened is that everything must "justify itself before the bar of _emotion_ and brainwashed mobocracy." Reason and logic isn't part of the plan, lest the herd start getting uppity.
21 posted on 01/23/2007 3:36:50 AM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: ClaireSolt

Good point. Glad you made it. I didn't want to get in a flame war with the guy.


22 posted on 01/23/2007 3:48:46 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: gcruse

My guess is that Home Depot negotiated the compensation at the time of hiring the CEO, not at the time he left the company.


23 posted on 01/23/2007 4:02:23 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: driftless2

His Basic Economics is brilliant, and would be my textbook of choice if I had to teach the subject.


24 posted on 01/23/2007 4:35:22 AM PST by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: jazusamo
If someone with half a milion dollars gave up his entire net worth, 500,000 people in this country would receive $1 each in their bank account. How would leaving him penniless make them richer? If you stop to think about it, wealth redistribution is stupid. It hasn't made mankind richer, either in terms of material prosperity or personal wealth.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 01/23/2007 4:41:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: hopespringseternal

Excllent job of proving the author's point.


26 posted on 01/23/2007 4:53:32 AM PST by CharacterCounts (-)
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To: jazusamo

"All of us have thousands of things happening around us that we do not understand. We use computers all the time but most of us could not build a computer if our life depended on it -- and those few individuals who could probably couldn't grow orchids or train horses.

In short, we all have grossly inadequate knowledge in other people's specialties."

Exactly. I've been self-employed for over 5 years now. Some days I can't believe what and how much people will pay me for my particular "brands" of expertise. I'm a firm believer that everyone has unique skills to exploit for their own personal gain. For some reason, we get it drummed into our heads that we couldn't possibly survive by our own skills, aptitudes and wits. Pish!

Our circle of friends is rather large and quite varied, but if I need something, I can get it done for me quickly and competently. Please don't think I'm trying to make my life seem like a Socialist Utopia, but when someone has what you need, and you need what someone else has, it's great to barter and/or be paid for those skills.

"One of the reasons why central planning sounds so good, but has failed so badly that even socialist and communist governments finally abandoned the idea by the end of the 20th century, is that nobody knows enough to second guess everybody else."

I'd never try to fix my furnace myself; that's where Doug comes in. If I need a new window, I call Dennis. If I need accounting advice, I call Jessica. If I need Veterinary care for one of my animals, I call Dr. Smith, etc.

If I needed a CEO commanding millions of dollars a year who can get me great returns on my investment in his/her company, I guess I'd want a competent one available too, LOL!


27 posted on 01/23/2007 5:06:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
My guess is that Home Depot negotiated the compensation at the time of hiring the CEO, not at the time he left the company.

You are correct. 90% of what Nardelli received was negotiated prior to his taking the position. The Board had to honor his contract. That fact won't stop the anti-capitalists from ranting though.

28 posted on 01/23/2007 6:18:34 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: jazusamo
I could become so greedy that I wanted a fortune twice the size of Bill Gates' -- but this greed would not increase my income by one cent.

Thomas Sowell is not just brilliant, he's also hilarious. For an economist, that's amazing.

29 posted on 01/23/2007 6:24:42 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Climate changes - this is what it does.” Dr. Martin Keeley)
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To: John Valentine
The following, from Sowell's article, appeared to me to be an effort to deceive:

The real question, then, is: Why do other people choose to pay corporate executives so much? One popular explanation is that executive salaries are set by boards of directors who are spending the stockholders' money and do not care that they are overpaying a CEO, who may be the one responsible for putting them on the board of directors in the first place. It makes a neat picture and may even be true in some cases. What deals a body blow to this theory, however, is that CEO compensation is even higher in corporations owned by a few giant investment firms, as distinguished from corporations owned by thousands of individual stockholders. In other words, it is precisely where people are spending their own money and have financial expertise that they bid highest for CEOs. It is precisely where people most fully understand the difference that the right CEO can make in a corporation's profitability that they are willing to bid what it takes to get the executive they want.

Did you catch it?

... may even be true in some cases.
30 posted on 01/23/2007 7:21:34 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If Sowell, and you, are correct, then the CEO doesn't fully understand the job of anyone else in their business. What then, exactly, is the CEO's function, and what makes their own skill so rare? If it is indeed rare, or is it just that so few persons ever get the opportunity to demonstrate their own ability to do the CEO's job?


31 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:32 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: ModelBreaker

Executive compensation, as well as labor's, and all other costs, plus profit, directly impact the cost of products, therefore consumers have a right to voice their opinions regarding same.


32 posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:38 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: jazusamo

He says it like it is.


33 posted on 01/23/2007 7:38:10 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Cosmo
Great article.

If you like apologies.
34 posted on 01/23/2007 7:39:31 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: driftless2
More than any other living American, Tom Sowell's books (of which I have a number) and articles should be required reading in all classrooms from high school on up.

Centralized planning appeals to you, then?
35 posted on 01/23/2007 7:48:04 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: jazusamo

I love this guy! He's brilliant, and can explain things in terms the rest of us can understand.


36 posted on 01/23/2007 7:54:24 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: MarkL

There may be many potentially great CEO's, who haven't had a turn at bat, but how many Boards would take the risk of choosing one? Instead, they get into a bidding war for one that has been fortunate enough to get a swing at the ball, and connect.


37 posted on 01/23/2007 7:55:03 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
Thomas Sowell is not just brilliant, he's also hilarious. For an economist, that's amazing.

People who don't have the personality to become accountants, instead, become economists.

38 posted on 01/23/2007 7:57:12 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: goldstategop
If someone with half a milion dollars gave up his entire net worth, 500,000 people in this country would receive $1 each in their bank account. How would leaving him penniless make them richer? If you stop to think about it, wealth redistribution is stupid. It hasn't made mankind richer, either in terms of material prosperity or personal wealth.

What do you call taking $1 from each of 500,000 people and putting them into the bank account of one individual? Isn't that, also, "wealth redistribution"?
39 posted on 01/23/2007 8:00:52 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: goldstategop
And, if redistribution is the norm in a given society, the guy won't do the work to earn the $500K in the first place. And that doesn't in turn mean that the other people would have more money anyway, because I'm not talking about money, I'm, talking about work which produces wealth.

And I'm not saying some rich guys didn't get their money by crooked means, either, but so what? A percentage of people with middle class level wealth got it by breaking into houses, but we don't look at the other 99% of middle class people like they're crooks because of that.

40 posted on 01/23/2007 8:04:01 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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