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Army Says Improper Orders by Colonel Led to 4 Deaths-(Former Somalia Ranger Co, Col. MD Steele)
ny times ^ | January 21, 2007 | PAUL von ZIELBAUER

Posted on 01/21/2007 7:54:21 AM PST by Flavius

Army investigators say that Col. Michael D. Steele, a decorated combat veteran and brigade commander in Iraq, issued improper orders to his soldiers that contributed to the deaths of four unarmed Iraqi men during a raid in May, according to military documents. Skip to next paragraph The Reach of War Go to Complete Coverage »

No charges have been filed against Colonel Steele in the Army’s continuing investigation. But two Defense Department officials said last week that Colonel Steele was formally reprimanded in the summer by Lt. Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, the former commander in Iraq, for not reporting the deaths and other details of the raid. The action was not made public.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: irontriangle; military; steele; unreal
due to censorship thats all one can say
1 posted on 01/21/2007 7:54:22 AM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Kill the enemy.....it is simple.

we need to fight this thing like WWII, not like Vietnam.

Kinder, Gentler, Compassionate 'Conservatism' does NOT WIN WARS!!!

Sounds to me like the Commander in Chief is more concerned with giving up our nation sovernty to the Mexcans to worry about the WOT.

the Demomarxists won WWII because they are ruthless. Something we could learn from them.


2 posted on 01/21/2007 8:00:05 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Flavius

Any charges against the soldiers?


3 posted on 01/21/2007 8:02:59 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

"Any charges against the soldiers?"




If you read the article, you will see the answer.


4 posted on 01/21/2007 8:44:18 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: Flavius
Looks like some soldiers lost their tempers and killed some non-combatants.

They then blamed the chain of command for issuing ROE's that were supposedly too aggressive.

The Army accepted the claim that Steele's orders must have ambiguous or confusing or incorrect, and reprimanded him.

The main problem, of course, is that winning requires extemely aggressive ROE's but the political brasses can't stand the heat from the civilian casualties that are a necessary consequence of the agressive ROE. So what the brass are telling the mid-range officers is, "Do what you have to to win, but don't get caught." It's fundamentally dishonest and will eventualy destroy the moral of the officers and men, just as it did in Vietnam.

In WWII, the enlisted men would have been reprimanded and the officers warned about repeated offenses and that would have been it. Sounds like we could add a lot to he "surge" in Iraq just by swapping uniformed attorneys out with combat forces.

5 posted on 01/21/2007 10:51:05 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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