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It's hard to hate entirely reasonable Hillary
The Sunday Times ^ | January 21, 2007 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 01/21/2007 6:19:55 AM PST by NCjim

Among my many guilty pleasures — bad reality television, solitary nose excavation, the Fox News Channel — hating Hillary Clinton was once near the top of the list. The senator from New York somehow managed to arouse every one of my love-to-hate zones.

She was a self-righteous feminist (boo) who married her way to power (double-plus-boo). She wanted to turn American medicine into the National Health Service (grrr) and all her friends were wealthy lawyers (triple eye-roll). She was Lady Macbeth when she wasn’t some goo-goo liberal ideologue.

There were as many ways to despise her as she had hairstyles. Then we even got to hate her hairstyles as well. One of my most treasured moments editing The New Republic in the 1990s was publishing a cover story by Camille Paglia on Hillary called “Ice Queen, Drag Queen”. Ah, those were the days.

She can still provoke something of the same response. A while back I was musing with Pat Buchanan, the old Republican warhorse, about the parlous state of his party. “Only one thing can save us now,” he grumbled. “And it’s Hillary.”

Even her allies loathe her. Two years ago David Geffen, the billionaire Democrat, told a New York crowd: “She can’t win and she’s an incredibly polarising figure. Ambition is just not a good enough reason.” She is currently fourth in those too-early-by-a-year polls in Iowa. And if you miss seeing an unflattering photograph of her, just check the Drudge Report. Before too long, one will probably pop up. And I’ll find myself in a wave of nostalgia.

Why am I having a hard time keeping the wave afloat? The answer is relatively simple. Clinton has been an almost painfully reasonable, centrist, sensible senator. I’d like to hate her but she’s foiling me every time.

Take the Iraq war. She voted for it but with shrewd reservations. “If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us,” she told the Senate before voting to give Bush authorisation. “For all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.” In retrospect those were wise words — but they are not helping her now with an increasingly anti-war Democratic base, especially since she continues to refuse to disown her vote.

Or take her recent manoeuvring over what the Pentagon had called a “surge” and last week was calling “plus-up” in Iraq. She opposed the new plan but did so in a written statement before jetting off to see the troops. She is close to David Petraeus, the gifted general who has been tasked with calming the non-Sadrite parts of Baghdad with a handful of troops.

Her critics call this calculation. Arianna Huffington says Clinton reeks of the scent of fear. John Edwards’s campaign, which has staked out the strongest anti-war stance, has already tried to reinforce this perception. Edwards recently charged, in a veiled reference to Clinton: “If you’re in Congress and you know that this war is going in the wrong direction, it is no longer enough to study your options and keep your own counsel.”

Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s aide, responded a little touchily: “In 2004 John Edwards used to constantly brag about running a positive campaign. Today he has unfortunately chosen to open his campaign with political attacks on Democrats who are fighting the Bush administration’s Iraq policy.”

Is Clinton “fighting” the Bush administration’s Iraq policy or trying to ameliorate it? Both, I’d say. It’s a perfectly rational position for a grown-up politician to take. When you consider her statements as a whole throughout a confusing, dynamic, dangerous war, what comes across is reasonableness and responsibility. “I am cursed with the responsibility gene. I am. I admit to that,” she told The New York Times last week. “

You’ve got to be very careful in how you proceed with any combat situation in which American lives are at stake.”

Quite so. But the line between prudence and calculation can be a thin one. And at times the centrism seems almost pathological. Here she is explaining her foreign policy philosophy to The New Yorker’s Jeffrey Goldberg: “We can critique the idealists, who have an almost faith-based idealism without adequate understanding or evidence-based decision making, and we can critique the realists for rejecting the importance of aspiration and values in foreign policy. You know, I find myself, as I often do, in the somewhat lonely middle.”

There are two things to say about that. The first is that she shouldn’t use “critique” as a verb. The second is that it’s very hard to disagree with her. The question in American foreign policy should never be whether one is a realist or an idealist. It should always be which blend of each is appropriate in the face of any specific challenge. I have no doubt, for example, that the first Bush administration in 1988-92 was too realist; and that the second one, which we are currently enduring, is too idealist. But who do we trust to get the balance right in the future? Hillary is essentially saying that we should trust her. She is giving us a clear signal of what a second Clinton administration would be like: all the centrism and responsibility of her husband’s eight years but without any of the charm.

Is that what Americans want? It seems that what they want is a form of escapism (in the form of Edwards), charisma (in the shape of Barack Obama), or integrity (in the guise of John McCain). But when the decision nears and the stakes, especially abroad, begin to seep in, might Hillary be right? Might they actually be yearning for dullness, competence and responsibility? Americans historically elect presidents who are an antidote to the flaws of the previous one. Nixon begat Carter who begat Reagan. When you think of George W Bush, the word “reckless” springs to mind. And what is the antidote to reckless? “I am cursed with the responsibility gene,” said a candidate last week. She may be revealing extremely good political instincts. Or she may, of course, be calculating again.

Dammit. Hating her was much easier.


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To: NCjim

Oh, Andrew, it's not hard to hate Hillary at all. She is a revolting specimen of humanity.


41 posted on 01/21/2007 6:51:59 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: NCjim

The only reason many people like Hillary now is because they only see snippets of her on TV, and THAT is edited by left-loving mainstream media Dems.

Once people start hearing and seeing her monotoned, scripted and vaccuuous responses to REAL questions, I am of the belief they will quickly get sickened of her.

She is the WORST speaker on the political stump.

Monotoned, shrill, and she has yet to express anything in resolute terms, other than to say "We must help the children."


42 posted on 01/21/2007 6:56:17 AM PST by Edit35
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To: MojoWire

Don't forget that her press conferences are pre-scripted and peons who approach her with praise are hand picked.


43 posted on 01/21/2007 6:57:28 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: NinoFan

I think the twinkie just may be a valley girl with Daddy's plastic in disguise. NOt a very convincing disguise however.


44 posted on 01/21/2007 6:57:45 AM PST by marlon
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To: facedown
Andi is such a hankie.

Perhaps, but here's his point: The Hildebeest that we've all come to know and despise has not really reared her head back in the ugliness that we saw during Bubba's time in office. She's calculating, trying carefully to straddle all of the options. In fact, she probably relishes having the moonbats upset with her stance over Iraq, it gives her credibility with the mushy middle, who have notoriously short memories.

He's also made some good points about Edwards, we all see him as 'the Breck girl', but the guy's been damn smart about how he runs his campaigns. We all knew that 2004 was a "get to know me" run for Edwards, and he wound up doing way better than that. Right out of the gate in Iowa, he bested nominee-designate Howard Dean, and that was before Howie did the scream thing. That breast cancer thing right at the end of the Kerry campaign gave some place for the grief over losing to flow to.

Edwards has been out of the Senate for two years, and he's been working the ground hard in the early primary and caucus states. Look for him to get his first win in Nevada, unless Obama spends some serious time there.

45 posted on 01/21/2007 6:58:59 AM PST by hunter112
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To: NCjim
It may be hard for you andie boy, but it aint hard for many people. When the beast runs the definition of "DIVISIVE" will have to be rewritten in the dictionary. This country will not allow a stealth candidate to become president. When the questions are fired at her, she won't have the "tough and grizzled" (or whatever sickening description the scum in the ratmedia will use when they talk about the lapdogs in the New York press corps) to protect them. Her run will be just what the the doctor ordered to get America back on the conservative track again.
46 posted on 01/21/2007 6:59:55 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Millions of Democrat babies aborted in 1988 or earlier did not vote this year.)
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To: NCjim

No, Andrew, it's not.

However, you are delusional if you think there is anything reasonable about her.


47 posted on 01/21/2007 7:00:09 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: stm

Hillary is a woman?


48 posted on 01/21/2007 7:03:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: hunter112

NOW is the time for the good citizens of the US who will not tolerate this witch as president to boycott Hillary's money people, friends and aides. Let them know if they invest in her political campaign, it will not be with our money. The people must show their power now, not wait until 2008 to vote. Send letters to everyone that we will not support her or her friends.


49 posted on 01/21/2007 7:06:06 AM PST by aragona (The Gang of 14 can go to hades!)
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To: NCjim
Clinton has been an almost painfully reasonable, centrist, sensible senator. I’d like to hate her but she’s foiling me every time.


50 posted on 01/21/2007 7:07:11 AM PST by Polybius
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To: trisham

That's why it's in quotes. Hillary is a female, I would hesitate to call her a woman. Helen Thomas is a female but no one on the planet would ever call that hag a woman.


51 posted on 01/21/2007 7:15:07 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: NCjim
Clinton has been an almost painfully reasonable, centrist, sensible senator. I’d like to hate her but she’s foiling me every time.

We will be hearing this sentiment on a daily basis from now until the election.

Get used to the "centrist" Hillary. The "reasonable" Hillary, the "Gee what was all that fuss about after all, she's really OK" Hillary.

Watch as her negatives evaporate in the warming rays of media sunshine..

52 posted on 01/21/2007 7:21:00 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NCjim

I might consider supporting Hillary!, if I just knew where she stands. I'm sure she's a reasonable POTUS candidate that would protect our borders, continue the fight against Islamofascism, and keep taxes low. The only way I'd consider a real insight into these likely innermost views would be to read her Wellesley college thesis. I assure you, Hillary!, I'll support you once your thesis confirms these reasonable positions.


53 posted on 01/21/2007 7:23:23 AM PST by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: NCjim

54 posted on 01/21/2007 7:28:36 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: NCjim

And here I thought i'd never see another Andrew Sullivan piece posted on FR.


55 posted on 01/21/2007 7:30:42 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: NCjim

No its not.


56 posted on 01/21/2007 7:34:59 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: NCjim

And Joe Stalin loved babies and puppies. What a tool!


57 posted on 01/21/2007 7:35:33 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: NCjim
She is part of the cachet of the old Clinton Administration.

Terms that may be resurrected:

"The Clinton bathtub ring"

"The purple rage" - His AND hers

"I don't recall"

"What happened to the FBI files?"

"Arkancide"

"It's all about fundraising, stupid!"

"F'ng J*w B*st*rd"

Etc.....

58 posted on 01/21/2007 7:35:48 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: NCjim

59 posted on 01/21/2007 7:40:09 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: NCjim
Statement: "It's hard to hate entirely reasonable Hillary"

Response: One does not hate a cockroach, one simply does not allow it in one's home!

60 posted on 01/21/2007 7:44:30 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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