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Anti-smoking milestone reached in U.S.
KPIC 4 - Oregon ^ | 1/20/07 | The Associated Press.

Posted on 01/21/2007 5:56:10 AM PST by NJRighty

RENO, Nev. (AP) - Thirty years after it began as just another quirky movement in Berkeley, Calif., the push to ban smoking in restaurants, bars and other public places has reached a national milestone.

For the first time in the nation's history, more than half of Americans live in a city or state with laws mandating that workplaces, restaurants or bars be smoke-free, according to Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights.

''The movement for smoke-free air has gone from being a California oddity to the nationwide norm,'' said Bronson Frick, the group's associate director. ''We think 100 percent of Americans will live in smoke-free jurisdictions within a few years.''

Seven states and 116 communities enacted tough smoke-free laws last year, bringing the total number to 22 states and 577 municipalities, according to the group. Nevada's ban, which went into effect Dec. 8, increased the total U.S. population covered by any type of smokefree law to 50.2 percent.

It was the most successful year for anti-smoking advocates in the U.S., said Frick, and advocates are now working with local and state officials from across the nation on how to bring the other half of the country around.

In a sign of the changing climate, new U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi banned smoking in the ornate Speaker's Lobby just off the House floor this month, and the District of Columbia recently barred it in public areas. Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Louisiana and New Jersey also passed sweeping anti-smoking measures last year.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antismoking; healthcare; smokingban
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To: NJRighty; Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; ...
"For the first time in the nation's history, more than half of Americans live in a city or state with laws mandating that workplaces, restaurants or bars be smoke-free, according to Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights."





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161 posted on 01/22/2007 8:02:58 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: flintsilver7
I know how to manipulate data to prove or disprove a point. I can use statistics to reach (convincingly) a conclusion I know to be false.

Then you know that in epidemiological studies a RR of 2.00 is required to even give a casual relationship, not causal, and a RR of 3.00 is preferred before assigning a link.

Websites are kinda like statistics, you can make them say what you want them to say, no matter what the evidence points to.

There sure is a significant body of work done after the EPA study, much of it based upon that study, or using that study as a starting point.
And in that body, the studies run about 80% to 20% against there being any statistically significant harm done by ETS on an otherwise healthy human.

I also know Dave Hitt's website. On the other hand I actually read the studies.

162 posted on 01/22/2007 8:07:28 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: flintsilver7
Have you tried breathing into a paper bag?

It might help.

163 posted on 01/22/2007 8:09:36 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Ditter

Any restaurant not run by a governmental entity is a privately-owned facility.


164 posted on 01/22/2007 8:23:13 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: flintsilver7
If that's your best argument, you had best sit this one out. Godwin's law has been satisfied in reply number......that's right, one!

Godwin's Law does not apply to discussions directly addressing propaganda or truth...somtimes referred to as Quirk's exception. If that is your best argument, you had best sit this one out.
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165 posted on 01/22/2007 8:24:53 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: flintsilver7
there is actually no constitutional right to smoke.

You must have missed that day in civics class.

The Constitution limits the power of government. It does not grant rights to individuals.

166 posted on 01/22/2007 8:25:09 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: NJRighty

I look forward to the FReeper celebrations about this (select members of course) and hope that they also supported the Kelo decision.


167 posted on 01/22/2007 8:29:00 AM PST by CSM (We're not losing our country, some are just throwing it away. - Sherri-D)
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To: Just another Joe

Here's a 69-page document (http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/SHSBibliography.pdf) listing studies about secondhand smoke. Do you mean to tell me that 80% of these find that secondhand smoke is harmless? Common sense and my own personal experience tells me that either smokers and families of smokers sure have bad luck when it comes to health (and conversely, nonsmokers and families of nonsmokers sure have good luck) or smoking causes problems for those who do it and those who are around it.

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/SHSBibliography.pdf

I have to assume that they're all government stooges out to grab your cigarettes.


168 posted on 01/22/2007 8:29:33 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: trumandogz

JUST WONDERING DO YOU RENT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS?


169 posted on 01/22/2007 8:29:59 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Just another Joe
Whether or not secondhand smoke is seriously harmful to a particular individual depends upon the quantity of ETS that individual may have been exposed to over long periods of time. Unfortunately, quantifying an individual's exposure to secondhand smoke over long periods of time is just about impossible (in contrast to smokers' esposure to "firsthand" smoke). So just about any study on effects of ETS on nonsmokers is flawed in this way.

Please see my post # 147.

170 posted on 01/22/2007 8:30:15 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: flintsilver7

"...but I would be perfectly fine with a public smoking ban."

Why? In your post you make the case that the free market is working just fine, why the need to utilize government force to enact a ban?


171 posted on 01/22/2007 8:30:53 AM PST by CSM (We're not losing our country, some are just throwing it away. - Sherri-D)
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To: flintsilver7
Here's a 69-page document (http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/SHSBibliography.pdf) listing studies about secondhand smoke. Do you mean to tell me that 80% of these find that secondhand smoke is harmless?

I'll have to take a look at the list on a study by study basis and get back to you.

Common sense and my own personal experience tells me that either smokers and families of smokers sure have bad luck when it comes to health (and conversely, nonsmokers and families of nonsmokers sure have good luck) or smoking causes problems for those who do it and those who are around it.

So now we are to take anecdotal evidence?
Please don't try to mix muscrats and geese. They don't go well together.
You have to rely on one or the other so tell me which you will take.

I have to assume that they're all government stooges out to grab your cigarettes.

I don't really care if they grab my cigarettes or not. I routinely go for 4 or 5 days at a time without a cigarette.
I do, however, hate the taking of liberties on false pretenses.

172 posted on 01/22/2007 8:34:27 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Does it make you feel better to tell yourself I'm agitated?

Hell, I'm happy. I'm in fantastic health and I don't pour thousands of dollars yearly into an addiction that shortens my life. It would be mean of me to poke fun at the weak-minded, but I've never been interested in being polite.

Go on and tell yourself that I'm angry, or that I'm misinformed. The man who devotes his energy to justifying his vice is still way behind the man who was smart enough to avoid the vice in the first place.

Now, light 'em if you got 'em!


173 posted on 01/22/2007 8:34:34 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: CSM

I don't support a ban. My own personal disgust with cigarettes as well as my allergies means I certainly wouldn't miss them if they were gone.


174 posted on 01/22/2007 8:35:37 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: Just another Joe

I do, however, hate the taking of liberties on false pretenses.

As do I, but I don't see this as a false pretense.


175 posted on 01/22/2007 8:36:14 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: mugs99

You're about 170 posts behind. Read up if you're going to try to contribute to this.


176 posted on 01/22/2007 8:36:45 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: elkfersupper

You didn't answer my question. What do you have to do to open an eating establishment to the pubic?


177 posted on 01/22/2007 8:36:53 AM PST by Ditter
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To: elkfersupper

I stand by what I said. You apparently didn't get it.


178 posted on 01/22/2007 8:37:51 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7
Of course it doesn't make me feel better.

The sight of a wounded animal never does.

I mean, the weight of all that self-congratulation can be seriously debiitating after a while.

179 posted on 01/22/2007 8:39:21 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

You'd be surprised - it never gets old.


180 posted on 01/22/2007 8:44:25 AM PST by flintsilver7
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