Posted on 01/18/2007 7:50:55 AM PST by jveritas
The most lasting tragedy of the Vietnam War is that it has legitimized “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”. We are seeing the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy running wild in this war on terror and sadly not only among liberals and their media but also among some conservatives who some of them are right here on this great Free Republic.
When Al Qaeda terrorists, or the terrorist regimes in Iran and Syria, or the Iraqi insurgent terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia hear the speeches of defeatism coming from liberals and their media, or unfortunately coming from some conservatives who some of them are right here on Free Republic, will they feel comforted and aided by these speeches? Of course they will be comforted, and they will be embolden to fight more and more, kill more and more, destroy more and more, because they realize that many Americans do not have the will to fight a long and hard war.
Defeatism and providing aid and comfort to the enemy was something that we expected from liberals and their media because their hate to President Bush and the Republican Party is hundred of times more than their hate to the terrorists. However it is really sad that some conservatives and some members on this great forum are doing their share in providing aid and comfort to the enemy through their defeatist attitude.
Do the defeatists want to amend the Constitution so we will have the following? Stop the war and leave if we lose more than one thousand troops, or stop the war and leave if it lasts more than one year, or stop the war and leave if it costs more than 50 billions dollars, whichever comes first. Do they want to do this?
The defeatists who argue that Iraq is not part of the war on terror but rather it is just a civil war between Sunnis and Shia are wrong and naive beyond belief. Iraq is most definitely the central and most important front in the war on terror. It is in Iraq where Al Qaeda and their local Iraqi allies decided to fight the US. It is in Iraq where the islamic terrorists from all over the world are pouring in to fight the Americans. It is in Iraq where the terrorist regimes of Iran and Syria and their local Iraqi allies want to defeat the US so they can have total control of the Middle East. Since the terrorists are all over the world, then the best way to fight them is to attract them to one place to kill them. Whether it was planned or not, Iraq turned out to be the magnet that has been attracting the terrorists from all over the world, and that is the ultimate way to fight the war on terror and to kill as many terrorists as we can.
Every defeatist who is giving aid and comfort to the enemy should ask himself or herself this question: What will happen if we leave Iraq before we achieve complete victory? The First thing that will happen is that the enemy will be embolden beyond belief and the terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia, whether they are Al Qaeda, or Iran or Syria, will be given the ultimate victory that will embolden them thousands more time then when they were emboldened when the US left Beirut after the Marines barracks terrorist attack in 1983, or when the US left Somalia in 1993 after the terrorist killed 19 troops, or when no reprisal happened against the terrorists when they attacked many American targets through out the Clinton years. If our passiveness to the past terrorist attacks emboldened them in such a way to attack us on 9/11, think about what they can do to us if we give and leave Iraq and thus handle them the ultimate victory that they have been dreaming about for decades.
The defeatists must understand that if few terrorists sitting in a cave in Afghanistan with a small budget and few volunteers were able to do the 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 Americans, and caused over one trillion dollars in economic damages, then the terrorists control of Iraq and of the whole Middle East, and its vast oil resources will allow them to conduct terrorist attacks against us that we cannot imagine even in our worst nightmares. By controlling Iraq and the Middle East the terrorists will have hundreds of billions of dollars under their control that they will use it to attack us everywhere in the world and the US and cause unimaginable death, destruction and economic losses that will make 9/11 terrorist attacks look like a picnic in comparison. They will also use the oil weapon to bring the world economy to a disaster that will be many folds worse than that of the 1929 Depression.
Fellow Free Republic members, we are fighting the most important war since WW II. We are not fighting for the Iraqis in Iraq but we are fighting for ourselves, for our freedom and for our way of life. Let us all support our President and our brave troops because they need our support now more than ever.
This phony question that the left always asks.....why haven't all Americans been asked to sacrifice.
I want to ask, just what they mean, what to they have in mind?
They have in mind raising taxes and using the WOT as an excuse.
Exactly and sometimes I would prefer to do it not so politely :)
there's a list :)
If his plans fail in Iraq like they have so far
They have?
See tagline..
There used to be a time and a place when it was fine to discuss policy and such. Now we have Internet and the whole world (including our enemies) can know and plan their strategy for our defeat by reading our news outlets. I'm sure it gives them great pleasure to see us (the whole country, not just FR) divided and fighting amongst ourselves.
What is wrong with WAITING to see how the surge plan works out instead of yelling from the rooftops that it won't work before it's even implemented? We are running out of options..we need to band together to fight them over there and to fight the media here. We have to win this-not for just Iraq--for US!!
There are some who are very vocal in opposing the President plan and the war, and no I will not quote them, you will find them in almost very thread related to the war.
"I don't think anyone here is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Without specific examples, it is nothing but hot air and smoke."
Agree, I see some debate on tactics, operations, and strategy that folks don't agree on the way it is being handled. I believe this is a way to stifle debate.
I haven't seen any, sorry.
Well, I'll not go into Reagan's record here but suffice it to say, I think.....thank G-D Bush is no Reagan.
"achieve complete victory"
Define this in the context of Iraq, please.
That is what the entire argument hinges upon.
The president has redefined "victory".
I do not support the president's new definition, so I can not support "achieving complete victory" when the president doesn't really mean "victory" in the military sense of the word.
Stopped reading right there.........
I admit, I am a de feetist!
Well said. Keep up the good work.
While I can appreciate your frustration, discussions on FR hardly rise to the level of "aid and comfort to the enemy."
Let's not get hyperbolic here.
I see. So either you agree 100% with the President on all matters without question or you're with the terrorists.
I really hope I'm not the only one tired of idiots who cry "Treason!" every time they hear a differing opinion.
It would probably depend on the D, but I suspect generally it would be few. The mood here during the Kosovo action was very anti-war.
LOL Great thread, jveritas!
You've got them crawling out of the woodwork, in defensive posture.
God bless George Bush, who has more intestinal fortitude than all of Congress combined... matched only by his right-hand man, VP Cheney! :-)
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