Posted on 01/18/2007 7:50:55 AM PST by jveritas
The most lasting tragedy of the Vietnam War is that it has legitimized “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”. We are seeing the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy running wild in this war on terror and sadly not only among liberals and their media but also among some conservatives who some of them are right here on this great Free Republic.
When Al Qaeda terrorists, or the terrorist regimes in Iran and Syria, or the Iraqi insurgent terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia hear the speeches of defeatism coming from liberals and their media, or unfortunately coming from some conservatives who some of them are right here on Free Republic, will they feel comforted and aided by these speeches? Of course they will be comforted, and they will be embolden to fight more and more, kill more and more, destroy more and more, because they realize that many Americans do not have the will to fight a long and hard war.
Defeatism and providing aid and comfort to the enemy was something that we expected from liberals and their media because their hate to President Bush and the Republican Party is hundred of times more than their hate to the terrorists. However it is really sad that some conservatives and some members on this great forum are doing their share in providing aid and comfort to the enemy through their defeatist attitude.
Do the defeatists want to amend the Constitution so we will have the following? Stop the war and leave if we lose more than one thousand troops, or stop the war and leave if it lasts more than one year, or stop the war and leave if it costs more than 50 billions dollars, whichever comes first. Do they want to do this?
The defeatists who argue that Iraq is not part of the war on terror but rather it is just a civil war between Sunnis and Shia are wrong and naive beyond belief. Iraq is most definitely the central and most important front in the war on terror. It is in Iraq where Al Qaeda and their local Iraqi allies decided to fight the US. It is in Iraq where the islamic terrorists from all over the world are pouring in to fight the Americans. It is in Iraq where the terrorist regimes of Iran and Syria and their local Iraqi allies want to defeat the US so they can have total control of the Middle East. Since the terrorists are all over the world, then the best way to fight them is to attract them to one place to kill them. Whether it was planned or not, Iraq turned out to be the magnet that has been attracting the terrorists from all over the world, and that is the ultimate way to fight the war on terror and to kill as many terrorists as we can.
Every defeatist who is giving aid and comfort to the enemy should ask himself or herself this question: What will happen if we leave Iraq before we achieve complete victory? The First thing that will happen is that the enemy will be embolden beyond belief and the terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia, whether they are Al Qaeda, or Iran or Syria, will be given the ultimate victory that will embolden them thousands more time then when they were emboldened when the US left Beirut after the Marines barracks terrorist attack in 1983, or when the US left Somalia in 1993 after the terrorist killed 19 troops, or when no reprisal happened against the terrorists when they attacked many American targets through out the Clinton years. If our passiveness to the past terrorist attacks emboldened them in such a way to attack us on 9/11, think about what they can do to us if we give and leave Iraq and thus handle them the ultimate victory that they have been dreaming about for decades.
The defeatists must understand that if few terrorists sitting in a cave in Afghanistan with a small budget and few volunteers were able to do the 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 Americans, and caused over one trillion dollars in economic damages, then the terrorists control of Iraq and of the whole Middle East, and its vast oil resources will allow them to conduct terrorist attacks against us that we cannot imagine even in our worst nightmares. By controlling Iraq and the Middle East the terrorists will have hundreds of billions of dollars under their control that they will use it to attack us everywhere in the world and the US and cause unimaginable death, destruction and economic losses that will make 9/11 terrorist attacks look like a picnic in comparison. They will also use the oil weapon to bring the world economy to a disaster that will be many folds worse than that of the 1929 Depression.
Fellow Free Republic members, we are fighting the most important war since WW II. We are not fighting for the Iraqis in Iraq but we are fighting for ourselves, for our freedom and for our way of life. Let us all support our President and our brave troops because they need our support now more than ever.
Even after we "won" WWII, it took the Russians, Brits, French and Americans 10 years to get rid if the werewolves. (nazi "insurgents", for no other dexcription)
Thanks.
It is amazing to me that so many westerners only see the Iraq War alone and miss the bigger picture...that Islam has been trying to take over the world since the 600's .
They view us as either muslim, slave, or dead.
Ben Franklin and many of American founding fathers in the 1700's knew this then, too.
Why the hell have we wasted even one single American life in Iraq to "protect America" when Jorge Bush is bent upon surrendering our sovereignty to Mexico and Canada?
Sorry, I just couldn't resist!
And that is why you are a defeatist who is giving an aid and comfort to the enemy. When a terrorist read your statement he will feel comforted and aided and want to fight more, kill more, and destroy more because he knows that people like you do not have the nerve to fight. As I said before, may defeatists hide under the cover of “Macho Talk” but in reality they do not have the guts for a long war and they want to cut and run. Even in your post you said that “let the Iraqis do the nasty fight” because you are not willing to fight, as I said before we are in Iraq not just for the Iraqis, we are mainly there for ourselves so we can destroy terrorism and protect our freedom and our way of life.
I agree. I've read some of the comments and it's the usual crowd, the ones I thought about as I read your post, that are bashing you, or the war effort...
"The one final comment I would add: FreeRepublic has had a lot of bitterness and anger lately."
WOW Ivan, right on. It's been tough reading the last couple of months just for this reason. So many (angry) factions these days. Very sad...
"... he knows that people like you do not have the nerve to fight."
Is your 'nerve' to fight words on the internet, poms-poms, etc.? Or not liking discussion on the issues....? Just curious...
Agree 100% and the islamic terrorist defeat in Iraq will go a very long way to prove that the jihadist ideology has failed.
Iran is a wellspring of terrorism; the madrassas in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia spew hatred.
The defeat of terrorism in Iraq is a fatal blow to Iranian and Syrian terrorist regimes. I expect both regimes to fall sooner rather than later once we achieve the victory in Iraq. Of course an Air War against the Iranian terrorist regime nuclear facilities and their military infrastructures together with its defeat in Iraq will make the collapse even much faster.
Some of those Bush bashers and war bashers are behaving worst than any lunatic left wing liberal.
Agreed - I see very similar responses on DU when I dare to slum there...
With regard to the sedation, do you have proof? I have this from Munir Haddad, an appeals court judge who witnessed the hanging, told the BBC that Saddam was not sedated. ''He was aware of his fate, and he knew he was about to face death," Haddad said. "[Saddam said] 'This is my end, this is the end of my life, but I started my life as a fighter and as a political militant, so death does not frighten me.' ''
And there is no admiration of Saddam over Bush. Of course, it's the standard attack. I should expect no less. I was only relating that dictators are normally big babies. Clearly, the mindset of those in Iraq is different than we seem to understand, and death or the threat of death doesn't seem to make cower in fear. But of course you twist that into admiration. It was astonishment.
As I said, had the President's comments been aimed at me, I would have freaked. It doesn't appear that the never ending supply of zealots has that fear.
Seems that 90+ percent of his posts have some form of the word "treason" in them. However, I found out that his vocabulary is actually bigger when he sent me a FReepmail with some real choice obscenities in it. Discredits his position.
What is "complete victory" in Iraq? A country will 100% no violent crime? We haven't even achieved that in the United States. The only significant military, paramilitary, or quasimilitary forces that remain to oppose us is the Sadr militia. After they are neutralized, that will be about as good a victory as we will ever get.
"Losing" in Iraq probably means losing Israel - so what does iraq have to do with israel?
allowing Iran to develop as much of a nuclear weapon and delivery system as their oil money can afford - what does iran and its ability to "develop" nukes have to do with iraq?
and not a long eventually, be capable of reaching the continental US - ICBM's? are you serious? iraq was barly capable of launching scuds, (little more than explosive trash cans)let alone ICBMs.................
Our anti missile system might be much better then than it is now but it would be better to forestall the problem than to have to rely on countering it. - a non-issue as it applies to this discussion.
And Russia will be helping a successful Iran that has beaten or proved immune to America. - C'mon say it with me........"Straw Man!!!"
nice try..............(not really)
You may consider it wishful thinking, and you want me to show you the proof. I cannot show an “exact proof” but I am writing to you about what I think will happen based on my knowledge of the area.
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