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Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics
United States Senate ^ | 1/17/07 | Marc Morano

Posted on 01/17/2007 6:05:23 PM PST by Pontiac

The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year (2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate alarmists.

The Weather Channel’s (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global warming program "The Climate Code," is advocating that the American Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their "Seal of Approval" for any television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is creating a climate catastrophe.

"If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval. Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on cyclical weather patterns," Cullen wrote in her December 21 weblog on the Weather Channel Website. [Note: It is also worth taking a look at the comments section at the bottom of Cullen’s blog, very entertaining.] See: http://climate.weather.com/blog/9_11396.html This latest call to silence skeptics of manmade global warming has been the subject of discussion at the annual American Meteorological Society’s Annual conference in San Antonio Texas this week. See: http://www.ametsoc.org/meet/annual

"It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather. It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement," Cullen added. [Note to Cullen: As the resident ‘climate expert’ at TWS, you should know that Hurricanes in the Southern Hemisphere do rotate clockwise. Also, Cullen and the media have ignored the growing climate skepticism by prominent scientists see: http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD ]

Cullen’s call for decertification of TV weatherman who do not agree with her global warming assessment follows a year (2006) in which the media, Hollywood and environmentalists tried their hardest to demonize scientific skeptics of manmade global warming. Scott Pelley, CBS News 60 Minutes correspondent, compared skeptics of global warming to "Holocaust deniers" and former Vice President turned foreign lobbyist Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as "global warming deniers." See: http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=A4017645-DE27-43D7-8C37-8FF923FD73F8 & http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: censorship; climatechange; globalwarmig; greenieweenies; heidicullen; junkscience; litmustest; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; pseudoscience; thoughtcrime; weatherbimbo
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To: Pontiac

You are indeed talking about the "reality based community" who sees Conservatives as flat Earthers right?

It reminds me when the Scientific community were having a reward in stock for someone to find longitude, they didn't give it to John Harrison(was his name I think) because they felt like he was a small clock-maker.


And Liberals complain about Conservatives as being strict and rigid, this and the new Grassroots redefinition really make me think why they become such first amendment purists.

Of course nobody bothered to mention that Environmentalism is a religion, in the sense that it explains how the world works to men, and not only an ancient one but one that involved ritual sacrifices to please the Gods, I wonder if they will throw very Conservative Christians, and orthodox rabbis in the well if another epidemic comes around to us, like the bird flu might come.


After all, they could say that some of them defy orthodoxy, and afterall it is good for many of those kinds of people to kill Jews, especially orthodox ones.

I've also got a question, who freed the slaves evangelical Christians or Global Warming obsessionists? In fact, was FDR besides planting trees, an Environmentalist? No, the planting trees rather was to give people jobs.

Also, Al Gore if you are listening did SUV Bulldozers create the Dust Bowl? I want to know about the most well-known climate disaster of the 20th Century.

Sorry, this is Mer ranting again.


61 posted on 01/17/2007 7:23:31 PM PST by Merta (The Entertainment FReeper(ideas on movies, music, videogames without the constant Bush bashing))
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To: penowa
the Democrats in Congress are busy doing away with conservative talk radio so it will be a little while before they get around to decertifying all the scientists that don't mimic the party line.

Oh I bet they can do both at the same time. After all Nancy is a great multi-tasker.

62 posted on 01/17/2007 7:25:41 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Mace and massage.


63 posted on 01/17/2007 7:28:06 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Pontiac

No surprise. Just typical leftist mind-control and harassing people and taking away their livlihood when they violate the dogmas of PC.


64 posted on 01/17/2007 7:29:09 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (PC - sacrificial altar on which many will give their jobs, their reputation, their lives.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
”How does one reason with a liberal?”

Start all communication with a liberal by saying, “I agree with you, …”
Only then will they listen. I am serious about this.

65 posted on 01/17/2007 7:32:15 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Vision

I remember being a young boy of probably 9 or 10 back in the early 90's and this had to be 92 or 93, and I remember I was watching a network news report with my Great-Grandma (who was in her late 80s at the time), anways...the news report said something about how scientist predicted that in 12 years from then that the sun would be soo hot that people would have to stay inside, and couldn't expose themselves to the sun.

When I heard this it scared the crap out of me and I asked my Grandma if that was true, and she said that it was not true and that the tv News can't always be trusted, and they will just say things to scare people. Well its been more than 12 years and we are still alive so Grandmas was right.

My grandma was a huge Rush Limbaugh fan back then too, she would listen to him everyday when she picked me up from grade school, of course back then I didn't know who Rush was or what he was talking about, I thought he was just an angry guy on the radio back then who used to be mad about everything. Later just in the last 5 years or so when I became more politically aware and started listening to Talk Radio myself, my mom told me that Grandma used to listen to Rush all the time when she was alive. Then it hit me after not thinking about it for years, that Rush was the guy on the radio everyday after school complaining about this or that lol.


66 posted on 01/17/2007 7:36:37 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: pyx

"Columbia University for a bachelor's in engineering and operations research"

Would that be Industrial Engineering??


67 posted on 01/17/2007 7:37:19 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Pontiac
The Weather Channel’s (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global warming program "The Climate Code," is advocating that the American Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their "Seal of Approval" for any television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is creating a climate catastrophe.,p>I never watch the weather channel and, judging by this article, I certainly don't want to.

When weather readers call themselves climatologists and talk of "excommunication" for others who don't agree with their so-called science, it's time to take a serious look at *****-slapping them a bit.

68 posted on 01/17/2007 7:57:50 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: pepperdog

I often believe my predictions for our local storms and snows is better than from professionals. Can I suggest that for the next 30 days we all make morning predictions of weather conditions, and self report our accuracy. I would bet the results would equal Heidi pain-in-the-ass.


69 posted on 01/17/2007 7:59:19 PM PST by healy61
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To: Pontiac
GLOBAL WARMING PRIMER
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
http://vathena.arc.nasa.gov/curric/land/global/climchng.html
http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/historical_CO2.htm
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html



These two figures show former temperatures with major periods of glaciation labeled. The dashed lines are the present global average temperature of about 15° C (59° F). Thus the solid curves show small changes from this average; note that the temperature drops only about 5° C during a glaciation. This has occurred about every 100,000 years, with smaller wiggles in between. That is, there has been a 100,000 year glaciation cycle for the past million years or so, and there may be shorter cycles as well.

The most recent glaciation, 20,000 years ago, is called the Laurentide, and Earth is still recovering from it. This map from the The Illinois State Museum exhibit on ice ages shows the extent of that ice.


The most recent small drop in average temperature caused the Little Ice Age of 1500-1700 AD, which history describes. Mountain glaciers advanced in Europe and rivers like the Thames in England froze solid, which doesn't happen now.


Click image for animation

The growth of the ice sheets began about 120,000 years ago as ice built up on the continents in the Northern Hemisphere, especially in Canada and Europe. The largest extent of these ice sheets occurred 18,000 years ago. At that time the largest ice sheets were between 3.5 and 4 km thick. In North America the largest ice sheet was the Laurentide Ice Sheet centered on Hudson Bay with other sheets centered on Greenland and in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. As these ice sheets expanded they grew together, covering Baffin Bay and eventually the Great Lakes and New England. In northwestern Europe the Fennoscandian Ice Sheet began to grow and expand south to cover what is now Norway and Sweden and north to cover the exposed continental shelf. Over time the ice sheet grew to cover Finland and the United Kingdom. This ice sheet extended east to the Ural Mountains where it met the Siberian Ice Sheet. Before the last ice age ice sheets already existed on Antarctica and on Greenland.

Most people seem surprised when we say current levels are relatively low, at least from a long-term perspective - understandable considering the constant media/activist bleat about current levels being allegedly "catastrophically high." Even more express surprise that Earth is currently suffering one of its chilliest episodes in about six hundred million (600,000,000) years. Given that the late Ordovician suffered an ice age (with associated mass extinction) while atmospheric CO2 levels were more than 4,000ppm higher than those of today (yes, that's a full order of magnitude higher), levels at which current 'guesstimations' of climate sensitivity to atmospheric CO2 suggest every last skerrick of ice should have been melted off the planet, we admit significant scepticism over simplistic claims of small increment in atmospheric CO2 equating to toasted planet. Granted, continental configuration now is nothing like it was then, Sol's irradiance differs, as do orbits, obliquity, etc., etc. but there is no obvious correlation between atmospheric CO2 and planetary temperature over the last 600 million years, so why would such relatively tiny amounts suddenly become a critical factor now?

Global Sea Level History


70 posted on 01/17/2007 8:00:12 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Pontiac

Heidi is a facist. Pure and simple.


71 posted on 01/17/2007 8:02:09 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Bush administration is now a total joke. I cannot believe I supported this man.)
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To: LukeL

Thanks. I just deleted TWC from my favs!


72 posted on 01/17/2007 8:21:41 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: finnman69
Thanks for the INFO.
73 posted on 01/17/2007 8:26:23 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Pontiac
I've been an operational meteorologist coming up on 30 years now...both on the military side and the civilian (NWS)side. Right now, I am just trying to figure out what is happening at this time in my forecast area. Then, I have to project out several days. It is a crap shoot most of the time. You just learn to recognize patterns and hope for the best. Yesterday, one of the longer range computer models showed another major cold surge into the Pac NW at the 240 hour point (day 10). Today, it shows warming. Now, with only minor changes in input, the model changed 180 deg only 10 days out. Now project that type of error out 10 years...or 50 years for that matter. Now try to use data from 100, or 3000 years ago, in climate models. Knowing how much error can result from minor changes over a relatively short forecast period, how much error can you expect from data which is slightly better than a blind guess. Obviously, I don't have much faith in the reliability of "ancient" weather data. Watching the "predictions" of the global warming proponents makes me just shake my head with disappointment. When you take an inflexible position in this business, Mother Nature will slap you up side the head. Seen it happen a hundred times. Is the planet warming? Probably. Is it man-made? Probably not. The warming and cooling cycles have been happening for as long as there has been a planet.

Last point from a crusty old forecaster...

When a challenge to someone's conclusions results in threats or name-calling, they are usually very insecure in their beliefs (i.e, wrong). Now go ahead and decertify me. Oh wait, I let my AMS membership lapse 5 years ago. Nevermind.

mesoman7
74 posted on 01/17/2007 8:34:00 PM PST by mesoman7
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To: Pontiac

How can anyone stand to watch TWC? It's 90% commercials with a little weather thrown in. Ugh.


75 posted on 01/17/2007 8:36:19 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Mediocrity!)
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To: Ole Okie
being caused my man's activity
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Well; tell him to knock it off! Sheesh! ;-)
76 posted on 01/17/2007 8:48:47 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Max in Utah
"When the going gets tough, the "progressives" go fascist.

"When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community." - Adolph Hitler

77 posted on 01/17/2007 8:51:20 PM PST by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: Pontiac

Heidi, why don't you go tell that garbage of yours to the head of the Hurricane Center. Even he's expressed skepticism of global warming.


78 posted on 01/17/2007 8:52:24 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Pontiac
Cardinal Richelieu

Prime Minister of France

1585 - 1642

"If you give me six lines written by the most honest man, I will find something in them to hang him."

79 posted on 01/17/2007 8:55:13 PM PST by Jagman (I drank François Rabelais under the table!)
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To: Ole Okie

I am ecstatic that you brought up Mars. Sorely little is said about warming throughout the solar system. You know, the solar system that used to revolve around earth. At least that's what the politically correct "scientists" of the day said.


80 posted on 01/17/2007 8:55:48 PM PST by libill (Socialism is communism with a happy face.)
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