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Will Poland face its homophobic demons?
gay.com ^ | 17 January, 2007

Posted on 01/17/2007 10:53:50 AM PST by lizol

Will Poland face its homophobic demons?

Stewart Who?, GAY.COM

Wednesday 17 January, 2007 13:39 | More from this date |

There are hopes for a monument in the centre of Poland’s capital city to commemorate the ‘Pink Triangle’ gays who were slaughtered in Nazi concentration camps during the Second World War.

More gays were excecuted in Nazi concentration camps in Poland than in any other country invaded by Hitler during the Second World War. Between 20,000 and 40,000 died in the horrific Auschwitz camp in south west Poland.

“We have to build this monument so that the people will not forget the thousands of gays who were murdered in the concentration camps of Poland,” said Lukasz Palucki, the founder of the Citizens’ Initiative to Commemorate Gays and Lesbians.

“World War II is evidence that intolerance, anti-Semitism and homophobia lead to concentration camps. History has proved that hated towards other groups leads to homicide.

“It’s time to commemorate all the homosexuals murdered in Nazi concentration camps,” Palucki continued, adding that a similar monument was unveiled last December in Berlin.

While Palucki’s requests are justified and timely, Berlin is a very different city to Warsaw. Arguably, Poland needs to face its homophobic demons with great urgency, unlike Germany, which is a gay paradise in comparison and a hot destination for queer tourists.

Recent events in Poland suggest that it will take more than symbolic architecture to change the coutry’s backward attitude to lesbians and gays.

The backers of the monument have announced that a contest for the design is to be held next week. They hope the monument will be in place in May so that the Warsaw Gay Pride march could pass and pay respects.

Not only does this seem like wishful thinking, but the idea isn't entirely supported by all the gay community in Poland.

“It is not a wise idea,” Robert Biedroñ, the head of Kampanii Przeciw Homofobii (Campaign against Homophobia) said.

“I think that such a monument can only make people turn away from the gay community. It will be taken as litigious,” he suggested.

His fears are understandable, as a large majority of the Polish population are resistant to gay rights, and their homophobia is fully supported by the authorities.

When the 60th anniversary of the Allied “liberation” of Auschwitz was commemorated, gays were the only group ignored during the official ceremony attended by many world leaders.

Last year, in reference to the 2006 gay pride march, Wojciech Wierzejski, a front-bench member of Parliament stated; “If the deviants will start demonstrating, they need to be bashed with a thick club.”

While “allowing” Warsaw gay march, city authorities also gave official approval to an anti-gay march staged by the League of Polish Families, and along the same route, as the Gay Pride March.

It appeared that the right-wing Warsaw city government set up a potentially violent confrontation by authorising the two marches in the same place at the same time.

Some might argue that a 20-story rainbow-coloured monument would still prove inadequate under the current circumstances. What Poland really needs is pressure from the EU to brush up its human rights…and a complete change of government.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturewar; deviants; gay; gaylibmovement; hedonism; homosexual; homosexualagenda; nambla; perverts; poland; sexpositiveagenda
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BOOOOO HOOOOO!

DEMON!

1 posted on 01/17/2007 10:53:52 AM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
The love that once dared not speak its name just won't shut up these days!
2 posted on 01/17/2007 10:55:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: JoAnka; Lukasz; Grzegorz 246; vox_PL; Kozik
“We have to build this monument so that the people will not forget the thousands of gays who were murdered in the concentration camps of Poland

Yeah, Poland, had plenty of concentration camps during WW2.

If only Poland existed at that time.
3 posted on 01/17/2007 10:58:18 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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4 posted on 01/17/2007 10:59:13 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"...Poland needs to face its homophobic demons with great urgency, unlike Germany, which is a gay paradise in comparison and a hot destination for queer tourists..."

Maybe they'd rather be a hot destination for norman people instead.

5 posted on 01/17/2007 10:59:26 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (Recipe for cleaning up Congress: Traitor, tree, rope. Repeat 200 times.)
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To: lizol

Gays trying to woo Poles?


6 posted on 01/17/2007 11:00:20 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: lizol

I guess it was all Poland's fault. Genghis Khan should've finished it off when he had the chance. < /s >


7 posted on 01/17/2007 11:02:04 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as the 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: lizol

As everybody who's ever heard of Gulbuth the Rampant knows, there's no such thing as a homophobic demon.


8 posted on 01/17/2007 11:02:45 AM PST by RichInOC (MORFORD: IT'S YOU!! GULBUTH: Y HALO THAR BUTTSECKS? MORFORD: WHAT YOU SAY!!)
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To: lizol

Will homosexuals face their hetrophobic demons?


9 posted on 01/17/2007 11:03:11 AM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: lizol

Homosexuals would be better off facing their own demons.


10 posted on 01/17/2007 11:05:32 AM PST by DesScorp (.)
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To: lizol
Oh, the horror of the persecution gay mothers, gay fathers, little gay babies...

Wait, I'm missing something here...

11 posted on 01/17/2007 11:06:10 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: lizol

Actual demons have never been known for their homophobia.


12 posted on 01/17/2007 11:09:04 AM PST by wideawake
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To: lizol
You need to bring out the big guns to face demons!

 

13 posted on 01/17/2007 11:11:20 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: lizol
Homo's are too busy counting the corn on their... to realize that Poland was ruled by the Nazi's at the time.

I doubt there were 40,000 homos however. But obviously they missed a few.
14 posted on 01/17/2007 11:13:37 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: lizol
“World War II is evidence that intolerance, anti-Semitism and homophobia lead to concentration camps.

Is he on drugs? Some of the highest-up members of the Nazi party were notorious homosexuals.

15 posted on 01/17/2007 11:14:10 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Rutles4Ever
"he Nazi party were notorious homosexuals."

A quick tour of Germany and it's clear the party is still full of them

16 posted on 01/17/2007 11:17:32 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
"Maybe they'd rather be a hot destination for norman people instead."

Yeah! It's been over 950 years since the last Norman Invasion. We're due.

17 posted on 01/17/2007 11:19:24 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Nathan Zachary

The problem is, that the idiot, who said so - Lukasz Palucki - is a Pole himself.

So he should've known that.

But it fits their vision: Catholic, strongly conservative Poland - "persecution" of gays - concentration camps.
Makes sense (sarcasm)


18 posted on 01/17/2007 11:22:51 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: wideawake

Yes quite the contrary...

19 posted on 01/17/2007 11:27:31 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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