Ah yes, the cry of the unappeasable Right.

Why settle for half a pie when you could have none.

Guiliani isn't half a pie. He's just a liberal that the Republicans have to live with so they could win an office in New York.
That doesn't cut it for us in the rest of the country. Conservatives get absolutely nothing by supporting Guiliani. If he gets the nomination, it's more in our interest that he loses so the Reps learn they can't win without us.
If I'm going to have a liberal president, then I prefer it to be Democrat. I gain nothing by allowing the Republicans to foist one upon me.

I couldn't agree more. I can't think of a better way to tear the Republican Party apart than to nominate a liberal like Rudy.

Many here appear willing to morph the Republican Party into a new, more modern version of the Democratic Party just to elect a "rock star" celebrity. He was a good mayor and did a good job for a liberal city like NY.

However, when it comes to national politics, Rudy would never, ever get my vote.

Rudy is for and has a proven track record for having :

LOWERED TAXES

MAKING GOVERNMENT SMALLER

LOWERING CRIME/PUTTING AWAY CRIMINALS

SAYING THAT SCALIA IS HIS FAVORITE SCOTUS JUSTICE AND VOWING TO NOMINATE SOMEONE JUST LIKE SCALIA, ROBERTS, and ALITO, SHOULD HE EVER BE PRSIDENT

HARD ON TERRORIST AND GIVING BACK SAUDI MONEY

HARD ON THE UN AND ARRAFAT

TAKING OVER A CITY DEEP IN DEBT AND LEAVING THE CITY WITH A SURPLUS, WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE, WITHOUT RAISING TAXES !

But YOU would rather have Hillary or Obama or Edwards or some Dem to be named later, elected president, "to teach the GOP a lesson" and have any one of them destroy this nation and keep Dems in power for the rest of your life and then some, because you are nothing but a masochistic UNAPEASEABLE, with NO political knowledge nor understanding.

Tell me, HOW did eight years of the Bill Clinton presidency give us a completely "CONSERVATIVE" aftermath? "Teaching the GOP/Bush 41 a lesson" really worked out sooooooooooooooooooooooo well, didn't it? /s

That makes no sense.Rudy would keep this country safe,and I'm sure the conservative right could persuade Rudy to make some concessions for their support.Hillary will change this country so much in 8 years you may never see a conservative President again.Small steps are far better than a huge kick in the ass backwards.