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Unusual vapor trail causes speculation[Top-Secret 'pulse jet' tests]
Dayton Daily News ^ | 08 Jan 2007 | Jim DeBrosse

Posted on 01/15/2007 5:46:27 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman

A photograph taken in Beavercreek has some hoping it's proof of top-secret 'pulse jet' tests.

BEAVERCREEK — A Beavercreek man's photograph of an unusual aircraft condensation trail has sparked a high-flying debate among scientists and aviation fans over whether the Air Force or NASA is flying an aerospace vehicle with an exotic new propulsion system.

The photo of the vapor trail, taken Nov. 10 by amateur meteorologist Bill Telzerow from his backyard, shows a distinctive "doughnuts-on-a-rope" shape.

The photo has raised questions about whether an experimental propulsion system that uses pulse detonation engine technology is being tested here. The propulsion system could potentially hurtle manned craft at six times the speed of sound (Mach 6).

The photo has been downloaded several thousand times each day since it was posted on the Web a week ago by the Federation of American Scientists (www.fas.org/irp/mystery/donuts.html), a Washington, D.C.-based group of scientists and engineers who monitor national policies on technology and research.

"I don't think (the photo) is proof positive, but I think it's interesting and suggestive," said Steven Aftergood, a senior research analyst at the federation.

Similar vapor trail sightings nationwide from 1988 to 1992 fueled speculation that the Air Force was working on a top-secret successor to the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane.

Pulse detonation engines, or pulse jets, contain no moving parts and are lighter and more efficient than regular jet engines.

Fuel is injected into the air inside the tube and ignited in a rapidly-occurring series of pulses. General Electric and Pratt & Whitney are both exploring the technology.

The Air Force Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base has conducted runway tests on a small version of a pulse detonation engine, but officials there say they have not yet flown a PDE craft.

Telzerow, a spotter for the National Weather Service, said he was photographing the wind gauge in his backyard when he noticed the unusual formation.

He snapped four photos over several minutes because "I'd never seen anything like it before."

He said he had no idea what it was until he talked to two ex-pilot friends, both of whom speculated it was from a pulse jet.

Tim Fry, an aerospace research engineer at the University of Dayton Research Institute, said he isn't convinced. Vapor trails "do wacky things. There could be any number of atmospheric disturbances going on that could cause it to lump together like that," he said.

Contact this reporter at (937) 225-2437 or jdebrosse@DaytonDailyNews.com.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: american; chemtrails; contrails; cuespookymusic; federation; jet; militarytechnology; miltech; of; pulse; scientists; stevenaftergood; topsecret; vaportrail
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To: El Gato

Interesting program on credible source reports.


61 posted on 01/15/2007 8:59:09 PM PST by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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62 posted on 01/15/2007 9:03:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Those type formations are caused by high velocity exhaust streams out of a nozzle. As the exhaust stream cools off/slows down, it begins to form its own vortices that will curl in in on each other like you see. Due to various dynamics/irregularities in the atmosphere and the exhaust stream vortices themselves, a few will become large enough to make the donut formations that we see down on the ground.

For what it is worth, I do not see the pulse-jet as a viable platform for a M4+ engine. For one thing it would beat itself and the airframe up pretty hard, and both would have a very low service limit. I would have to think that thing would also be very un-stealthy to acoustical detection modes, maybe others too.

But if it was a pulse jet, the exhaust pulses would be much more pronounced and at regular intervals than we have always seen in these photos.

Wolf
63 posted on 01/15/2007 10:47:54 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
"But if it was a pulse jet, the exhaust pulses would be much more pronounced and at regular intervals than we have always seen in these photos."

And almost certainly more numerous and closer together (higher pulse-rate frequency)...

64 posted on 01/16/2007 9:15:12 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: RunningWolf
For what it is worth, I do not see the pulse-jet as a viable platform for a M4+ engine. For one thing it would beat itself and the airframe up pretty hard, and both would have a very low service limit.

That's my thought also: the vibration from the pulsed detonations would be very destructive.

65 posted on 01/16/2007 9:47:04 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: RunningWolf

Thank you for what appears to be the one competent, insightful post of this thread.

The gene pool is getting pretty shallow here @ FR.


66 posted on 01/16/2007 11:14:14 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Joe Boucher
>>>I think they call it phased pulse array.

"Phased array" is a radar term refering to a radar that transmits continuously without the "sweeping" motion normally associated with radar screens.

Not sure what a phased pulse array would be?

67 posted on 01/16/2007 6:29:53 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: xcamel
I have several such photos. Nothing unusual in this. More wacko chem-trail nonsense.
68 posted on 01/16/2007 6:33:50 PM PST by StingingScorpion
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To: HardStarboard

Neither do I but that is what I've heard it called.

Obviously something that pulses but not too sure what or how.
That is all i've heard.


69 posted on 01/16/2007 6:34:34 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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